Assassin's Creed Odyssey

Assassin's Creed Odyssey

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AC: Odyssey is overrated.
The plot is shallow. The quests are repetitive. The characters are unfun. The environment is big yet lacks in-depth content. Seriously I would just play Witcher 3 instead.

*Launching Witcher 3.
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Well, I have a few things to say about AC:O. Also, I haven't play AC since ACII, no DLC's, and that was when those games were originally released.

I got this game on sale some months back, but it's only been this July 4th weekend I actually took the time to play it. I've put in maybe three or four hours, and already, I can tell I'm not going to enjoy it.

Why?

1. The story-telling is just silly, edgy-teenager stuff. I'm too old for Ubisoft's brand of story-telling. When some of you kids get older, you'll understand. I don't expect anyone to relate to what I'm saying. But that's just how it is. The writing is Sophomoric drivel. And no, I'm not talking about "the plot." I have no idea what the plot even is, but I can tell just by how the game handles the story so far that it's not going to be very exciting.

2. Gear hunting. Fifteen minutes in the game, and I suddenly remembered what I hated about Ghost Recon: Breakpoint. Finding the weapons and all that gear-score stuff. It just isn't fun. It's time-wasteful crap. That's just all there is to it. There's a bunch of crafting/upgrading mechanics in this game, and it's just there to waste your time.

This is what turned me off to Witcher 3. I hate that too, because everything else about that game was done correctly so far as I can tell. I just don't have time for these superfluous tasks anymore, because they aren't fun. How many games do we have to play that does this before we realize it? Apparently, we gotta play 20 years worth of them. And so, that's me. Just give me a sword and let me engage the actual content. You know, like how the original AC games did it--like how Prince of Persia did it before. Wonderful games without the bullcrap.

This is something the Far Cry series does correctly. There are attachments and stuff, sure. But you aren't forced to constantly hunt down and maintain and upgrade and mess around with inventory nonsense. You just play the game. Ubisoft's treatment of Open World is good enough that you don't need this filler crap.

3. I don't like the controls. I guess AC has always been like this to an extent. The controls have always been somewhat "different." Maybe I'm just not that into the game enough to want to deal with the hassle, but I don't remember the earlier games being this auto-piloty. I can't sprint. I can't jump. All I do is press W or Z and when I want to get over something, I hold SHIFT. That's it.

Combat isn't that engaging. I spam LMB until the enemy flashes, then I press SPACE. What's the big deal? I don't feel there is any strategy to this at all. I don't feel there is any tension. It's not even that hard, unless I'm not high enough level. Speaking of which...

4. I don't really have anything against levels. In this game, the levels really only exist for three reasons: 1) To gear lock you, 2) to Perk lock you, 3) to Content lock you. I already don't care for the gear mechanics, and I don't have anything against the Perks really. Those usually add a lot of depth to the game. What I don't like is Content locking. Why? Because it forces game length that you wouldn't otherwise have to do. What do I mean?

At the beginning of the game, you gotta kill that dude who is hunting you: Talos. I fought the dude for at least an hour trying to kill him at level 3. I did absolutely nothing to him. He just basically wiped the floor with me. I gave up and decided I wasn't high enough level. No big deal.

I come back a little later at level 4, and while he was still quite difficult, I was able to take him down after only a few tries. Why is this a problem for me?

Because I was still using the same equipment and skills as I was when I was level 3. So that basically told me that there was a hidden stat I had no control over except to level up. And well... I don't much care for that. This isn't an MMO. You don't need those superfluous gates. Let me do what I want to do.

Anyway, I can tell AC:O is a decent game. I mean, some folks, what I wrote, maybe it doesn't bother them so much. But for me, that's why I don't like it. I just cannot play games that feature these superfluous aspects. I can overlook great story-telling, however. Yeah, I know. "STORY!" But a game is a game, first. If I am having fun with the game, then I can engage more with the story. And I can forgive a lot, because it's a game first. I can deal with less than stellar story-telling. I cannot deal with gameplay that isn't fun.
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TheBlindOwl 8 lipca 2020 o 12:39 
i really like skyrim but it has a disappointing end-game boss and the world doesnt change that much after you defeat the final boss. i say it is an open-sand box type of game and shouldnt be compared with assasin's creed: odyssey
Witcher 3 is better
No AC Odyssey is better
Witcher 3
Odyssey
Witcher 3
Odyssey


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g03mJjEITtw
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Początkowo opublikowane przez Usogui:
yeah it was a review a week after the game came out. that is why i am saying that this game has a lot of changes now.
It's nothing comparing to Witcher 3 the flawless RPG.
YO:Eredin:
I agree... I have played a couple hundred hours of this game mostly because I enjoyed the mercenary hunting, gear hunting, and just seeing the environments. Especially their rendition of Atlantis.
But despite all that I mostly hated the main story as well as Kassandra.. The moral and ethical problems they serve us are extremely shallow and constantly contradicted by the fact that you are a mercenary who literally kills people all day.. but when rulers do it they are monsters! lol ok..
Also there is just too damn many pointless quests, literally all of which are fetch quests by some order..

I much preferred Origins and Bayek as a protagonist. He had actual depth to him.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Hank Hill's Disappointed Sigh; 8 lipca 2020 o 17:10
Joblo 8 lipca 2020 o 17:48 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Stupid.Sexy.Flanders:
I agree... I have played a couple hundred hours of this game mostly because I enjoyed the mercenary hunting, gear hunting, and just seeing the environments. Especially their rendition of Atlantis.
But despite all that I mostly hated the main story as well as Kassandra.. The moral and ethical problems they serve us are extremely shallow and constantly contradicted by the fact that you are a mercenary who literally kills people all day.. but when rulers do it they are monsters! lol ok..
Also there is just too damn many pointless quests, literally all of which are fetch quests by some order..

I much preferred Origins and Bayek as a protagonist. He had actual depth to him.

Now try to imagine that with blood thirsty Viking...
EF_Neo1st 8 lipca 2020 o 17:48 
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For me, none of that is a problem for the reasons I explained and this is the best AC for me because of gameplay, because of exploration and because of all the gameplay and combat options.

And the gameplay resolve around... ... ...Combat Option?


You talk about exploration but its not so amazing. A heavy modded Skyrim are by far superior on that departement. A lot of recycled asset. Mountain area are bad and feel so wrong. The lod are not so good. Did yu try RDR2 because its by far superior. In antiquity each town have is own culture the way they built, they lives, they eat. You dont feel anything of that. Town are repetitive and terribly borring. Witcher town are a lot more living. Oh yeah athen are a little different 4 or 5 unique asset and yes greek island are amazing some of the beautiful place on earth. But odyssey is big projet filled with poor talent.
"a heavy modded Skyrim " . . . if Skyrim need a heavily modded map to be that good . . .
I dont have RDR neither RDR2.

Repetitive assets, yes, different placement of everything, things that are new and a lot of things not used, etc, along with the natural evironment around and inside all locations and all the randomness of things that happen all over the place, it is a lot better than any previous AC for that matter (and no, I dont care that "cities" in older ACs had better structure to it, because that also was a copy/paste of several buildings through the whole city and from city to city, with different and unique buildings here and there, using different layouts through the city and from city to city . . . but the city itself didnt feel as good as at Origins and Odyssey).

If I find a way to heavy mod any game, literally any game, it can become the game of dreams of any player with all sorts of gameplay possibilities, structures, AIs, etc.
Mods by mods my guess is Minecraft heavily modded with multiplayer, creating maps, ultra realistic graphics and 3D models, also with rounded terrain and all sorts of gameplay possibilities beat everything else handsdown.
Fallout 4 with tons of mods literally become another game, with a map so overfilled with new locations players created and add-ons to normal game locations, new enemies, new weapons, new assets, new everything, including new ways to interact with every NPC and enemy, new cloth/armor/weapons/tolls/building-blocks . . a complete new game full of more amazing things to be done (then yes, Bethesda go and screw with Fallout 76 . . . well, Bethesda created heaven, Fallout 4 that is amazing on itself and allow tons of amazing mods at once, but then there was the devil and so was created hell, Fallout 76).

NO MODS, the lore and sidequests of TW3 still beat all other RPGs I know.
The exploration of AC Odyssey, followed close by Origins, is the best exploration of all ACs and one of the bext explorations at any game (one of the best).
The gameplay of AC Odyssey (combat + exploration + parkour) is the best in the AC franchise.
Obviously it is all "my opinion" and you may not agree, also I comparedat come posts to TW3 because someone else was comparing to TW3.

"before you mention Skyrim again" . . . I dont have Skyrim and never played it, I just saw videos and it did not call my attention that much, it dont look the same kind of RPG experience of TW3, classic ACs or AC Origins/Odyssey and seem to be a lot of talk talk talk, go there, go here, talk talk talk, also fight like a classic RPG + MMPRPG style for everything (the kind of RPG I once loved for years, but now I dont even have patience to play much).
Simon 8 lipca 2020 o 19:39 
Witcher 3 is only marginally better than Odyssey. Story is better, but the graphics are horse crap compared to Odyssey and the combat is awful.
EF_Neo1st 8 lipca 2020 o 20:20 
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Witcher 3 is only marginally better than Odyssey. Story is better, but the graphics are horse crap compared to Odyssey and the combat is awful.
TW3 release date: 05/2015
AC Odyssey release date: 10/2018
"graphics are horse crap compared to Odyssey"
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/571465344137449472/pNyWOa8K_400x400.jpeg
(and I would not go "so far" as to call "horse crap" but "dated because of effects and lvl of detail" also with different setting).
Some stuff, like trees (entire think trees or the smaller branches of the trees, not only foliage), grass and other vegetation move with wind and other details that lack at all ACs, including Origins and Odyssey, also other smaller details of environment, NPCs, animation and other things that are done good even to today standards or are done great at TW3 that is much older.

Combat is different, also it is closer to Dark Souls 3 (that was stil to be released) but without stamina bar and you being able to cast spells and do other stuff much more fluid too (and without stamina bar).
AC Odyssey have a combat that resembles more a faster Dark Souls 3 (that is already faster than Dark Souls 1) but without stamina bar, but it still resembles only for the fact you can not just cancel one action with another action like at any hack&slash, you have to wait for the dodge or attack animation to finish to perform something else
To be honest, combat at The Witcher 3 is far from awful, it literally just is different and fits the enemies mechanics around for the kind of challenge the game is meant to deliver.

Part of what people complain about Odyssey (and Origins too) is exactly the combat, because it is not hack&slash anymore.
Complaint about combat is more a matter of opinion. If I hate hack&slash, I will hate classic ACs.
If I hate a more souls-like combat, I will hate Origins and Odyssey combat.
Joblo 8 lipca 2020 o 21:49 
Początkowo opublikowane przez EF_Neo1st:
Part of what people complain about Odyssey (and Origins too) is exactly the combat, because it is not hack&slash anymore.


I dont think your hack and slash comparison are good.

You think than old ac are hack and slash because you doenst try to follow the parkour,

And you think than now you cant do that and have to follow some parkour.

But i have played the whole ACO without any strategy. Just killing and spaming the magical heal and when the thing was really wrong running anywhere and restarting the whole process.
My own opinion, its not much harder than before and you have a lot more tools than before to do that. Its a lot less rewarding to play stealty anyway most worth target cant be oneshot.
You dont have anymore to follow parkour. You can climb and enter anywhere. You can fall at any height.

The old games are designed arround parkour. You have to hide and climb in designed area. When you take the times you can see a clear path a lot of old mission was to remain hide or just follow a target without being see.


This games are by design a lot more hack and slash than any other games in the AC serie.
My bleeding thumb can confirm it.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Joblo; 8 lipca 2020 o 21:55
EF_Neo1st 9 lipca 2020 o 1:00 
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Part of what people complain about Odyssey (and Origins too) is exactly the combat, because it is not hack&slash anymore.


I dont think your hack and slash comparison are good.

You think than old ac are hack and slash because you doenst try to follow the parkour,

And you think than now you cant do that and have to follow some parkour.

But i have played the whole ACO without any strategy. Just killing and spaming the magical heal and when the thing was really wrong running anywhere and restarting the whole process.
My own opinion, its not much harder than before and you have a lot more tools than before to do that. Its a lot less rewarding to play stealty anyway most worth target cant be oneshot.
You dont have anymore to follow parkour. You can climb and enter anywhere. You can fall at any height.

The old games are designed arround parkour. You have to hide and climb in designed area. When you take the times you can see a clear path a lot of old mission was to remain hide or just follow a target without being see.


This games are by design a lot more hack and slash than any other games in the AC serie.
My bleeding thumb can confirm it.
At the old games I spawned only attack and dodge, without even paying any attention to enemy placement and attacks on me, and I could kill 15 to 20 enemies in like 4 minutes without being touched, just rushing through them all and spamming attack and dodge (and without using anyone else help, like at Brotherhood that you could call for help, it was not needed).
Try that exact same "lack of attention" at Origins or Odyssey and see if you can kill 15 to 20 enemies at the same time being alone, invade a fort headon, let everyone gang up against you and fight everyone at the same time, without any strategy, without any attention to their placement and attacks, just spamming dodge and attack and see what is the result.
At Origins and Odyssey it is almost impossible to go without any attention . . . without any attention you cant do that even 1x1 or 1x2 or that is a good chance you get killed at ease (well, ok, I am playng on Nightmare, if I lower to Easy Light with my gear, being able to 1shot to 4shot everything, I can start to go a bit crazy at Odyssey even because enemies cant 1shot me at Easy Light even considering I have 1/4 max HP).
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I also would like to notify you that it's ASSASSIN'S CREED not Warrior's Creed. Ubisoft is just using the fame of AC franchise and make a non-related game with the title of AC just to lure the fanboys to give them money.
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I also would like to notify you that it's ASSASSIN'S CREED not Warrior's Creed. Ubisoft is just using the fame of AC franchise and make a non-related game with the title of AC just to lure the fanboys to give them money.
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