Assassin's Creed Odyssey

Assassin's Creed Odyssey

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Triumphant_Trump 2020 年 6 月 24 日 上午 7:02
AC: Odyssey is overrated.
The plot is shallow. The quests are repetitive. The characters are unfun. The environment is big yet lacks in-depth content. Seriously I would just play Witcher 3 instead.

*Launching Witcher 3.
引用自 MEMPHIS:
Well, I have a few things to say about AC:O. Also, I haven't play AC since ACII, no DLC's, and that was when those games were originally released.

I got this game on sale some months back, but it's only been this July 4th weekend I actually took the time to play it. I've put in maybe three or four hours, and already, I can tell I'm not going to enjoy it.

Why?

1. The story-telling is just silly, edgy-teenager stuff. I'm too old for Ubisoft's brand of story-telling. When some of you kids get older, you'll understand. I don't expect anyone to relate to what I'm saying. But that's just how it is. The writing is Sophomoric drivel. And no, I'm not talking about "the plot." I have no idea what the plot even is, but I can tell just by how the game handles the story so far that it's not going to be very exciting.

2. Gear hunting. Fifteen minutes in the game, and I suddenly remembered what I hated about Ghost Recon: Breakpoint. Finding the weapons and all that gear-score stuff. It just isn't fun. It's time-wasteful crap. That's just all there is to it. There's a bunch of crafting/upgrading mechanics in this game, and it's just there to waste your time.

This is what turned me off to Witcher 3. I hate that too, because everything else about that game was done correctly so far as I can tell. I just don't have time for these superfluous tasks anymore, because they aren't fun. How many games do we have to play that does this before we realize it? Apparently, we gotta play 20 years worth of them. And so, that's me. Just give me a sword and let me engage the actual content. You know, like how the original AC games did it--like how Prince of Persia did it before. Wonderful games without the bullcrap.

This is something the Far Cry series does correctly. There are attachments and stuff, sure. But you aren't forced to constantly hunt down and maintain and upgrade and mess around with inventory nonsense. You just play the game. Ubisoft's treatment of Open World is good enough that you don't need this filler crap.

3. I don't like the controls. I guess AC has always been like this to an extent. The controls have always been somewhat "different." Maybe I'm just not that into the game enough to want to deal with the hassle, but I don't remember the earlier games being this auto-piloty. I can't sprint. I can't jump. All I do is press W or Z and when I want to get over something, I hold SHIFT. That's it.

Combat isn't that engaging. I spam LMB until the enemy flashes, then I press SPACE. What's the big deal? I don't feel there is any strategy to this at all. I don't feel there is any tension. It's not even that hard, unless I'm not high enough level. Speaking of which...

4. I don't really have anything against levels. In this game, the levels really only exist for three reasons: 1) To gear lock you, 2) to Perk lock you, 3) to Content lock you. I already don't care for the gear mechanics, and I don't have anything against the Perks really. Those usually add a lot of depth to the game. What I don't like is Content locking. Why? Because it forces game length that you wouldn't otherwise have to do. What do I mean?

At the beginning of the game, you gotta kill that dude who is hunting you: Talos. I fought the dude for at least an hour trying to kill him at level 3. I did absolutely nothing to him. He just basically wiped the floor with me. I gave up and decided I wasn't high enough level. No big deal.

I come back a little later at level 4, and while he was still quite difficult, I was able to take him down after only a few tries. Why is this a problem for me?

Because I was still using the same equipment and skills as I was when I was level 3. So that basically told me that there was a hidden stat I had no control over except to level up. And well... I don't much care for that. This isn't an MMO. You don't need those superfluous gates. Let me do what I want to do.

Anyway, I can tell AC:O is a decent game. I mean, some folks, what I wrote, maybe it doesn't bother them so much. But for me, that's why I don't like it. I just cannot play games that feature these superfluous aspects. I can overlook great story-telling, however. Yeah, I know. "STORY!" But a game is a game, first. If I am having fun with the game, then I can engage more with the story. And I can forgive a lot, because it's a game first. I can deal with less than stellar story-telling. I cannot deal with gameplay that isn't fun.
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Triumphant_Trump 2020 年 7 月 5 日 上午 4:19 
引用自 Michael Daemon
引用自 Delta_Frost
The plot is shallow. The quests are repetitive. The characters are unfun. The environment is big yet lacks in-depth content. Seriously I would just play Witcher 3 instead.

*Launching Witcher 3.

I wish i hadn't listened to all the bad press and reviews about this game and had gotten it sooner. This game is amazing and is the first AC i've truly enjoyed since Black Flag. You're wrong. On every point you are wrong.
Let me guess you're 14 right?
TheBlindOwl 2020 年 7 月 5 日 上午 5:01 
引用自 Michael Daemon
引用自 Delta_Frost
The plot is shallow. The quests are repetitive. The characters are unfun. The environment is big yet lacks in-depth content. Seriously I would just play Witcher 3 instead.

*Launching Witcher 3.

I wish i hadn't listened to all the bad press and reviews about this game and had gotten it sooner. This game is amazing and is the first AC i've truly enjoyed since Black Flag. You're wrong. On every point you are wrong.
me too these trolls are discouraging players to enjoy the game. it happened to me in witcher 3. i like both games. i was pessimistic with odyssey given the games before really didnt step up to the standards but i did gave it a try and it has a lot of potential

however, i got discourage finish Witcher 3. it just doesnt feel right anymore. i think ill redo all over 3 games (witcher 1 2 and 3) all over again to get the vibes back
最后由 TheBlindOwl 编辑于; 2020 年 7 月 5 日 上午 5:02
Triumphant_Trump 2020 年 7 月 5 日 上午 5:39 
引用自 Usogui
引用自 Michael Daemon

I wish i hadn't listened to all the bad press and reviews about this game and had gotten it sooner. This game is amazing and is the first AC i've truly enjoyed since Black Flag. You're wrong. On every point you are wrong.
me too these trolls are discouraging players to enjoy the game. it happened to me in witcher 3. i like both games. i was pessimistic with odyssey given the games before really didnt step up to the standards but i did gave it a try and it has a lot of potential

however, i got discourage finish Witcher 3. it just doesnt feel right anymore. i think ill redo all over 3 games (witcher 1 2 and 3) all over again to get the vibes back
https://steamcommunity.com/app/292030/discussions/0/1606022547913051220/
TheBlindOwl 2020 年 7 月 5 日 上午 7:26 
引用自 Delta_Frost
引用自 Usogui
me too these trolls are discouraging players to enjoy the game. it happened to me in witcher 3. i like both games. i was pessimistic with odyssey given the games before really didnt step up to the standards but i did gave it a try and it has a lot of potential

however, i got discourage finish Witcher 3. it just doesnt feel right anymore. i think ill redo all over 3 games (witcher 1 2 and 3) all over again to get the vibes back
https://steamcommunity.com/app/292030/discussions/0/1606022547913051220/
yup i am that.. so?
Ares4X 2020 年 7 月 5 日 上午 7:28 
For God's sake please close this thread!
Ren†Gen 2020 年 7 月 5 日 上午 7:36 
引用自 Ares4X
For God's sake please close this thread!
TheBlindOwl 2020 年 7 月 5 日 上午 11:24 
just close this thread. all report this post so that moderators can close this. this is clearly baiting and trolling
FrankOBeans 2020 年 7 月 5 日 下午 2:51 
引用自 Delta_Frost
The plot is shallow. The quests are repetitive. The characters are unfun. The environment is big yet lacks in-depth content. Seriously I would just play Witcher 3 instead.

*Launching Witcher 3.
it is honestly a chore to play i am trying to beat but its the same thing over and over.
Stinky Pinky 2020 年 7 月 5 日 下午 4:08 
引用自 FrankOBeans BGP
引用自 Delta_Frost
The plot is shallow. The quests are repetitive. The characters are unfun. The environment is big yet lacks in-depth content. Seriously I would just play Witcher 3 instead.

*Launching Witcher 3.
it is honestly a chore to play i am trying to beat but its the same thing over and over.
Thats pretty much how assassins creed games are. Rinse and repeat...its a good formula, overused but still good.
Joblo 2020 年 7 月 5 日 下午 6:17 
引用自 Clarkrx7
引用自 FrankOBeans BGP
it is honestly a chore to play i am trying to beat but its the same thing over and over.
Thats pretty much how assassins creed games are. Rinse and repeat...its a good formula, overused but still good.
It was never be so true than now. It was possible before to rush the story and close the games. Now you have to grind for the level requirement, to earn the right to realize than the story are really bad and all character are poor caricatures.
Michael Daemon 2020 年 7 月 6 日 上午 3:08 
引用自 Ares4X
I spended 577 hours in this game, that speaks for itself. So stop writing nonsense.

I read this and thought you were exaggerating until i noticed today i am somehow already 120+ hours into the game and haven't even completed half of the quest log, still soo many islands to conquer and sidequests to complete. Time really flies when you're having fun rampaging across the Greek countryside with a flaming sword in one hand and a magic murder spear in the other.
rui.silva.incp 2020 年 7 月 6 日 上午 3:25 
The difference between Odyssey and Witcher 3 is clear as the day.
One is much more focused on combat, the other is much more focused on storytelling.

So, people who want a beautiful more arcade experience with tons of silly jokes will flock to Odyssey.
People who want deeper characters and deeper storytelling will flock to Witcher 3. I remember the quest where you have to keep a straight face while your friend and former lover is being tortured and screaming in the next room. There is nothing even close in Odyssey. Odyssey is a much more light experience.

None are better or worse for going after their own style of play. We are who we are.

I have said in a couple posts and will keep saying that what Odyssey did and does wrong is marketing. They seem to want to be the next Witcher 3 when they are something else. Obviously, they wanted to ride the boat because Withcer 3 had an amazing impact. But....Odyssey is just not the same thing and will not appeal to the exact same crowd.

That these discussions show up again and again is a result of that marketing work. A wolf in a sheep´s skin is still a wolf. Trying to say it´s a sheep its only going to make people angry.

Odyssey is beautiful and amazing but it just calls for a somewhat different crowd. There will be people who can fit into both crowds because there is some overlapping. But the core of both crowds does not mix that well. It is as it is.

I am more on the Witcher 3 crowd because I care for deeper characters.
I get absolutely bored with Odyssey because not even my character makes sense to me after a couple hours.
However, I can´t deny Odyssey is beautiful, has tons of content, some of the quests have funny stories. Yes! Also I will never deny combat in Odyssey is better vs Witcher 3. I will always agree. The problem I have with the combat in Odyssey is that, not unlike Witcher 3, it becomes the same thing again and again. And while the Witcher 3 carries me forward with the story, in Odyssey I get like "ohhh one more fort....meeeeeeeehhh"; "ohhh one more mercenary....meeeehhh"; "ohh one more city that looks just like the previous one"; "ohh one more cultist to kill".
Odyssey to me just does not have enough story and characters to support the huge world they want to have. Therefore, a lot of the world stuff in Odyssey is just the same and gets boring to me.
I sincerely think Odyssey would work better if it was a smaller world, removing the less padded quests, removing the additional forts, camps, even a couple cities. Focus on what´s special and different. Allow for it to keep you more focused with the story. There would be enough cool combat.

But no doubt some people will enjoy the huge world. So, enjoy :)

P.S.:
Something which I think is absolutely silly with Odyssey levels is the way they work with areas. This becomes terribly silly when a chicken can one shot kill you if you dare travel to the wrong area. I would say it would be fine if the guards or soldiers would be higher level. Like...more armored, better weapons. But chickens being deadly just because its the wrong area? That´s just a big facepalm loool

最后由 rui.silva.incp 编辑于; 2020 年 7 月 6 日 上午 3:26
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 7 月 6 日 上午 7:15 
引用自 MEMPHIS
Well, I have a few things to say about AC:O. Also, I haven't play AC since ACII, no DLC's, and that was when those games were originally released.

I got this game on sale some months back, but it's only been this July 4th weekend I actually took the time to play it. I've put in maybe three or four hours, and already, I can tell I'm not going to enjoy it.

Why?

1. The story-telling is just silly, edgy-teenager stuff. I'm too old for Ubisoft's brand of story-telling. When some of you kids get older, you'll understand. I don't expect anyone to relate to what I'm saying. But that's just how it is. The writing is Sophomoric drivel. And no, I'm not talking about "the plot." I have no idea what the plot even is, but I can tell just by how the game handles the story so far that it's not going to be very exciting.

2. Gear hunting. Fifteen minutes in the game, and I suddenly remembered what I hated about Ghost Recon: Breakpoint. Finding the weapons and all that gear-score stuff. It just isn't fun. It's time-wasteful crap. That's just all there is to it. There's a bunch of crafting/upgrading mechanics in this game, and it's just there to waste your time.

This is what turned me off to Witcher 3. I hate that too, because everything else about that game was done correctly so far as I can tell. I just don't have time for these superfluous tasks anymore, because they aren't fun. How many games do we have to play that does this before we realize it? Apparently, we gotta play 20 years worth of them. And so, that's me. Just give me a sword and let me engage the actual content. You know, like how the original AC games did it--like how Prince of Persia did it before. Wonderful games without the bullcrap.

This is something the Far Cry series does correctly. There are attachments and stuff, sure. But you aren't forced to constantly hunt down and maintain and upgrade and mess around with inventory nonsense. You just play the game. Ubisoft's treatment of Open World is good enough that you don't need this filler crap.

3. I don't like the controls. I guess AC has always been like this to an extent. The controls have always been somewhat "different." Maybe I'm just not that into the game enough to want to deal with the hassle, but I don't remember the earlier games being this auto-piloty. I can't sprint. I can't jump. All I do is press W or Z and when I want to get over something, I hold SHIFT. That's it.

Combat isn't that engaging. I spam LMB until the enemy flashes, then I press SPACE. What's the big deal? I don't feel there is any strategy to this at all. I don't feel there is any tension. It's not even that hard, unless I'm not high enough level. Speaking of which...

4. I don't really have anything against levels. In this game, the levels really only exist for three reasons: 1) To gear lock you, 2) to Perk lock you, 3) to Content lock you. I already don't care for the gear mechanics, and I don't have anything against the Perks really. Those usually add a lot of depth to the game. What I don't like is Content locking. Why? Because it forces game length that you wouldn't otherwise have to do. What do I mean?

At the beginning of the game, you gotta kill that dude who is hunting you: Talos. I fought the dude for at least an hour trying to kill him at level 3. I did absolutely nothing to him. He just basically wiped the floor with me. I gave up and decided I wasn't high enough level. No big deal.

I come back a little later at level 4, and while he was still quite difficult, I was able to take him down after only a few tries. Why is this a problem for me?

Because I was still using the same equipment and skills as I was when I was level 3. So that basically told me that there was a hidden stat I had no control over except to level up. And well... I don't much care for that. This isn't an MMO. You don't need those superfluous gates. Let me do what I want to do.

Anyway, I can tell AC:O is a decent game. I mean, some folks, what I wrote, maybe it doesn't bother them so much. But for me, that's why I don't like it. I just cannot play games that feature these superfluous aspects. I can overlook great story-telling, however. Yeah, I know. "STORY!" But a game is a game, first. If I am having fun with the game, then I can engage more with the story. And I can forgive a lot, because it's a game first. I can deal with less than stellar story-telling. I cannot deal with gameplay that isn't fun.
#2 - I dont need to farm for anything, dont know what you are talking about (maybe because I play on Nightmare and dont really care about upgrading my stuff every level and I can face, on Nightmare, enemies higher lvl than my own without much problem.

#3 - I prefer AC Origins and Odyssey over classic ACs combat.
Obviously it comes to taste, but I never found the classic ACs combat to be enjoyable and it becomes boring fast, this one I can have more fun with and vary the gameplay too.

#4 - I dont feel locked behind lvls (other than being locked from gear or skills I dont need at all)
About "content lock", I can do higher lvl missions as much as I can kill higher lvl enemies, combat will just take longer but that is about it.

About #1 . . .
#1 - Story telling on all ACs was always kind of silly anyway so I did not see much of a difference on that.
Zephyrus 2020 年 7 月 6 日 上午 7:40 
引用自 Perplex
You dont even own the game.
Google: Uplay

Google: Epic Store

:steamfacepalm:
marcoalcuricamposjr 2020 年 7 月 6 日 上午 7:58 
ac odyssey is perfect 10/10
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