Could I win the war for Athens?

[Joe Biden]

Is it possible to take all provinces for Athens? I have now taken the entire north for Athens but I'd like to conquer the whole Greek world for Athens since they are way better than those cheap and cruel Spartans if that was possible? So, can I do this? And is it going to have consequences?

[Darth Wadewilson]

You can conquer everything except Sparta I think. May be Macedon too coz of the dlc

[Darth Revan]

you can not win the war for any faction, you can conquer the regions, except of laconia and attica, but the war is dynamic, regions will get weakened, conquered or defendet without you too so regions you already conquered will not necceccarly remain in the hand of the league you conquered it for and you have to conquer it again.

historically though sparta and its peloponnesian league won this war so with previous AC games in mind this will most likely not be different from reality in this one.

[Joe Biden]

What if I took every province except for Lakonia for Athens? In that case sparta shouldn't be able to win the war anymore, right? Or would the AI just do its thing and conquer all provinces in the name of Sparta?

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by GounterMcSnounter:

What if I took every province except for Lakonia for Athens? In that case sparta shouldn't be able to win the war anymore, right? Or would the AI just do its thing and conquer all provinces in the name of Sparta?

the war is dynamic, even if you are not in a region or even if you did not weaken a region, no province can get conquered forever, it is a constand getting weakened, getting conqeured, getting defended, getting reconquered and so on which happens with or without your intervention.

the reason i said that most likely sparta will win the war in AC anyway is because the AC series usually do not change the outcome of major historical events. Sparta won the war in reality so with the AC series in mind it most likely will win the war in the AC universe too.

[[SOTI] IKilled007]

And before you try it, there's no way to kill Sparta's remaining king. Not with ghost arrow or anything. You can see his leader symbol moving around and you can ghost arrow the guards in his private chamber that you can no longer get into, but even with explosive ghost arrows, you can't damage him and he is untargetable.

And before you try it, you cannot get Athens' status to low even if you raid their only fort (in the northwest of Attika, I think) in record time and move on to kill as many soldiers as you can -- in the prison and on the walls, and in the house, etc. You can't drop their power level to low and force a battle. Sadly, the devs seem to have considered every workaround we might come up with to finish the war.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by GounterMcSnounter:

What if I took every province except for Lakonia for Athens? In that case sparta shouldn't be able to win the war anymore, right? Or would the AI just do its thing and conquer all provinces in the name of Sparta?

Historically the war did go on for another 30 years after the time the game is set and ended with the victory of Sparta.
You cant change that. AC games toy with historical events and characters but they dont change historical facts/outcomes.

[Drafo]

Originally posted by GounterMcSnounter:

Is it possible to take all provinces for Athens? I have now taken the entire north for Athens but I'd like to conquer the whole Greek world for Athens since they are way better than those cheap and cruel Spartans if that was possible? So, can I do this? And is it going to have consequences?

Sparta won the war IRL so no. Also, why would you want Athens to win? They were exploiting the Delian League, which was meant to end as soon as Persia was no longer a threat. Yet Athens used it as an excuse to force their will on the other city-states of Greece, essentially trying to carve out an Athenian Empire. Sparta, on the other hand, may have been militaristic and reliant on slavery, but they weren't expansionist in the slightest. And it's not like mercy was a foreign concept to them. When the war actually ended, Thebes, Corinth, etc. all wanted to punish Athens by razing their city and sowing their lands with salt. Sparta was the one that said "no, let them be, they're no longer a threat so they should have the chance to rebuild and recover from the war." It's also worth noting that if Athens DID found an empire, it may very well have prevented Macedon from rising to prominence under Phillip II, which in turn would have denied us one of the most significant historical figures ever, Alexander the Great. So yeah, I'm glad Sparta won.

[Eanwin]

Very good historical synopsis, Drafo! I totally concur.