Why the stats of Bayek and Evie are low?!

[The Father]

not sure if there is a way to upgrade lieutenants, but roxana, bayek, evie and other dude with a mask and gold in middle are having low stats although they are all legendary, other mercenaries have alot better stats, so wtf?!

[Chikuwu]

Theyre low leveled.

[The Father]

Originally posted by i am chet:

Theyre low leveled.

so they are just there for show off?!

its too bad that i have to replace them just to get better stats without having the ability to upgrade them.

[Dr. Peppermill]

Originally posted by Abook:

Originally posted by i am chet:

Theyre low leveled.

so they are just there for show off?!

its too bad that i have to replace them just to get better stats without having the ability to upgrade them.

You'll get even worse stats if you buy lieutenants from the store (with real money). I bought 3 of them and replaced later with mercenaries that have 3 tier 5 stats.

[Chikuwu]

Originally posted by Abook:

Originally posted by i am chet:

Theyre low leveled.

so they are just there for show off?!

its too bad that i have to replace them just to get better stats without having the ability to upgrade them.

No, theyre not there for show off.

Like in any RPG, theres the Quality of the item/gear/leader (Usually represented by colors of white, blue, purple, and yellow) depending on their rarity ON THAT LEVEL.

Of course, as you level up in the game, you gain better gear and better lietuenants, and eventually, white tier lvl 30 lietuenant is better than lvl 10 yellow.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Escapist83:

My guess is they're trying to avoid any accusationis of pay-to-win. If you made the store/preorder stuff the most powerful, people would certainly be complaining.

indeed.

[【PROFESSOR ONYX】]

Yeah, I've been wondering the same all the time. It's pretty ridiculous to see even the legendary Odysseus being a 3-diamond lieutenant, while the game world is full of no-name sisters of artemis and bandits who are much better in that regard, often having 5-diamond naval perks, especially when your character reaches the top level.
It's really weird there is no option to upgrade your lieutenats or retrain them in some way so it makes sense to keep your favorite ones also in late game.. but I saw a similar thread on Ubisoft's support forums today, and I hope they take this request serious and implement the option to upgrade ship lieutenants with the next update

[【PROFESSOR ONYX】]

Originally posted by Escapist83:

My guess is they're trying to avoid any accusationis of pay-to-win. If you made the store/preorder stuff the most powerful, people would certainly be complaining.

well, that would be an explanation, but it is weird how all the other equipment such as armor pieces and weapons obtainable via store can still be upgraded by a blacksmith in game while those lieutenants become completely useless. I got that twitch prime pack for example, and the pirate armor is low level by default, however, once you reach higher levels, you still have the option to upgrade it so it suits your needs later as well. And look how they even gave us the option to change the visuals of armor pieces so we don't have to abandon our favorite stuff. I frankly don't understand why something so trivial as a simple in-game option to retrain your lieutenants didn't come to their minds yet..

[Dr. Peppermill]

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

Originally posted by Escapist83:

My guess is they're trying to avoid any accusationis of pay-to-win. If you made the store/preorder stuff the most powerful, people would certainly be complaining.

indeed.

They definitely can based on crap they sell in the store.

[Fallen]

all they gotta do is include a training thing in game for the lieutenants, that can turn rares into legendaries and so on for the ones you like the look of, change their specialties and all that. Mostly so you can continue using merc you like the look of and make them how you want. Got one awhile ago called i think plain walker, or soul walker that wears a straw hat.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Dr. Peppermill:

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

indeed.

They definitely can based on crap they sell in the store.

not really, that would only provide fodder for the people who already complain about the games microtransactions to use in their arguments.

[Dr. Peppermill]

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

Originally posted by Dr. Peppermill:

They definitely can based on crap they sell in the store.

not really, that would only provide fodder for the people who already complain about the games microtransactions to use in their arguments.

Why do they care, it is a single-player game, there is nothing to "win" ? You don't need anything from the store unless you think it looks better.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Dr. Peppermill:

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

not really, that would only provide fodder for the people who already complain about the games microtransactions to use in their arguments.

Why do they care, it is a single-player game, there is nothing to "win" ? You don't need anything from the store unless you think it looks better.

obviously they do, otherwise they would not complain. this is the only reasonable reason i can think of for ubisoft to make helix store lieutenants like they are.

[Dr. Peppermill]

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

Originally posted by Dr. Peppermill:

Why do they care, it is a single-player game, there is nothing to "win" ? You don't need anything from the store unless you think it looks better.

obviously they do, otherwise they would not complain. this is the only reasonable reason i can think of for ubisoft to make helix store lieutenants like they are.

I can admit I have wasted hundreds of dollars in Warframe. Which is also not necessary but it spared me from hundreds of hours of grinding. I have never heard people complaining about the Warframe business model ... but because this is Ubi (one of the biggest in the industry) they love to complain.

[Mr.Hmm]

Originally posted by Dr. Peppermill:

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

obviously they do, otherwise they would not complain. this is the only reasonable reason i can think of for ubisoft to make helix store lieutenants like they are.

I can admit I have wasted hundreds of dollars in Warframe. Which is also not necessary but it spared me from hundreds of hours of grinding. I have never heard people complaining about the Warframe business model ... but because this is Ubi (one of the biggest in the industry) they love to complain.

That's because you can farm platinium in Warframe easily.

It would be a nice idea if they could give us a way to upgrade/lvl up our lieutenants.

[The Father]

yah, they should upgrade whenever u level up similar to engravings.