To kill or not to kill my father

[!HotCakeX]

i chose not to kill him, but wouldn't it be better and more rewarding if i had chosen to kill him?

[jack_of_tears]

I killed the farker, he did not deserve to live.

[!HotCakeX]

Originally posted by jack_of_tears:

I killed the farker, he did not deserve to live.

okay i reloaded my last save and killed him and his gay adopted son. feels better now. tho i wonder whose side i will be on during nations wars

[Bee]

I preferred to not kill him, just because I feel like it would make sense for people back then to freak out about an oracle's prediction and act the way he did. He was manipulated by what he perceived to be a bigger, divine power, and I couldn't bring myself to kill him.

[SillyScrotum]

Originally posted by Bee:

I preferred to not kill him, just because I feel like it would make sense for people back then to freak out about an oracle's prediction and act the way he did. He was manipulated by what he perceived to be a bigger, divine power, and I couldn't bring myself to kill him.

i decided to let him live but somehow the game acts like i killed him , ????

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by WackJesus:

Originally posted by Bee:

I preferred to not kill him, just because I feel like it would make sense for people back then to freak out about an oracle's prediction and act the way he did. He was manipulated by what he perceived to be a bigger, divine power, and I couldn't bring myself to kill him.

i decided to let him live but somehow the game acts like i killed him , ????

of course, because there are people who want to see him dead and you took a contract and want to get the money for it, the last thing you want do is letting people know that he still lives. That makes perfectly sense in my opinion. also you eventually will hear random (or follow up quest npcs, i do not remember exactly) quest npcs say that nobody ever saw his dead body if you dont kill him

[Nephew Sam]

I didn't kill him and at the end I got him as one of my leutenants... I don't think u get that if u kill him, but frankly the kill/not to kill choices don't really mean anything besides the final one.

[!HotCakeX]

Originally posted by Bee:

I preferred to not kill him, just because I feel like it would make sense for people back then to freak out about an oracle's prediction and act the way he did. He was manipulated by what he perceived to be a bigger, divine power, and I couldn't bring myself to kill him.

how did you even know about oracle before killing / sparing him? there is no words about oracle until you do this mission and return to your friend on the ship, that's the first time you hear about oracle. so with the normal line of story and progress, at that time i think i made the right decision to kill him. first of all he was weak, he didn't protect his family, second he wasn't even her real father.

[!HotCakeX]

Originally posted by Judge Diaz:

I didn't kill him and at the end I got him as one of my leutenants... I don't think u get that if u kill him, but frankly the kill/not to kill choices don't really mean anything besides the final one.

for my lieutenants i got Athena from store and wanna get Evie Frye too tho it needs master assassin badge and idk how to get that.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by HotCakeX:

Originally posted by Bee:

I preferred to not kill him, just because I feel like it would make sense for people back then to freak out about an oracle's prediction and act the way he did. He was manipulated by what he perceived to be a bigger, divine power, and I couldn't bring myself to kill him.

how did you even know about oracle before killing / sparing him? there is no words about oracle until you do this mission and return to your friend on the ship, that's the first time you hear about oracle. so with the normal line of story and progress, at that time i think i made the right decision to kill him. first of all he was weak, he didn't protect his family, second he wasn't even her real father.

You already hear that the Oracle said she/he must die when you leave the starting island with barnabas.

At the remembrance cutceen after barnabas told you who the wolf of sparta is.

[Bee]

Originally posted by HotCakeX:

Originally posted by Bee:

I preferred to not kill him, just because I feel like it would make sense for people back then to freak out about an oracle's prediction and act the way he did. He was manipulated by what he perceived to be a bigger, divine power, and I couldn't bring myself to kill him.

how did you even know about oracle before killing / sparing him? there is no words about oracle until you do this mission and return to your friend on the ship, that's the first time you hear about oracle. so with the normal line of story and progress, at that time i think i made the right decision to kill him. first of all he was weak, he didn't protect his family, second he wasn't even her real father.

Actually, the first flashback, the one you get right when you first get in the boat with Barnabas and before you go after The Wolf, is when we first hear of the Oracle. One of the Spartans in the flashback shouts that the Oracle said they had to kill your sibling to prevent Sparta's fall. So I already was aware that they were being manipulated by the Oracle.

[!HotCakeX]

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

Originally posted by HotCakeX:

how did you even know about oracle before killing / sparing him? there is no words about oracle until you do this mission and return to your friend on the ship, that's the first time you hear about oracle. so with the normal line of story and progress, at that time i think i made the right decision to kill him. first of all he was weak, he didn't protect his family, second he wasn't even her real father.

You already hear that the Oracle said she/he must die when you leave the starting island with barnabas.

At the remembrance cutceen after barnabas told you who the wolf of sparta is.

oh so i guess i didn't pay so much attention to that part. i dunno why his children could be a threat to his empire if he had raised them right like a real father.
what oracle said was stupid, and made the end of his empire an inevitable thing.

[Bee]

Originally posted by HotCakeX:

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

You already hear that the Oracle said she/he must die when you leave the starting island with barnabas.

At the remembrance cutceen after barnabas told you who the wolf of sparta is.

oh so i guess i didn't pay so much attention to that part. i dunno why his children could be a threat to his empire if he had raised them right like a real father.
what oracle said was stupid, and made the end of his empire an inevitable thing.

Yes! Because it is a self-fulfilling prophecy, like with Perseus, Oedipus and Harry Potter :D

That's a very common story device. The prophecy that would never have happened if the people involved hadn't actively tried to prevent it from happening.

Back then, people used to think Oracles spoke the word of the gods, and therefore couldn't be wrong. So in their minds, if the baby was allowed to live, Sparta would fall, no matter what. So to stop Sparta from falling, the baby had to fall. That's what the Oracle said, "To prevent Sparta's fall, the child must fall first". Not "To prevent Sparta's fall, the child must be raised well by their loving parents". It might seem abhorrent to us, but it seemed that like right thing to do for someone back then.

[Kabob]

The game gives you a chance to be 'the bigger' person. You don't see that often, and the Dev's decided to surprise us for most of those decisions.

I'm still wondering what the outcome will be for my 'final' decision (pre dlc), since there's more dlc to come and that choice hasn't been revisited like many others.