Assassin's Creed Odyssey

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Kassandra is the one and only canon Eagle Bearer
Confirmed by the game's director and both actors from the game.

The marketing for the original release was Alexios-heavy only to prevent a boycott from incels.

The latest DLC, the most important part of the game? 100% Kassandra in it's marketing to reflect that she is the canon.

Future AC games will only reference her as the Eagle Bearer.

You can play as Alexios, yes. And you can do these things also: kill Stentor, kill Nikolaus, cause Myrrine's death. But even if you choose to do all of those things, your choices don't matter.

In canon Alexios is Deimos only, Stentor lives, Myrrine lives, Nikolaus lives, and Alexios dies like a little sissy atop Mount Taygetos, forcing Kassandra to kill him because he was too weak to continue to live, and traumatized by the Cult touching his no-no places.

Just a public service announcement for anyone who was unclear. :)
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😎Astran😾 May 3, 2019 @ 12:52pm 
Are you a cult member? Because those "non/canon" talks make you look like a cultist.
/Downvoted
jack_of_tears May 3, 2019 @ 2:53pm 
The entire point of an rpg is that, in your personal playthrough, any choice you make is your personal canon. The novels have to choose one direction by default, because they're novels, but that doesn't invalidate any of your personal decisions.

There is no 'right' or 'wrong' path, there's just your path.

Mad★Paladin May 3, 2019 @ 3:35pm 
such a failure as a troll
Zorro May 3, 2019 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by howler77:
such a failure as a troll

+1

Not to mention it doesn't matter. Heck even CDPR put an incredible mechanic in Witcher 3 that allowed you to choose your own cannon from the previous two games through an in-game quest when you're being questioned by the general before you have an audience with the emperor. Things like that are why Witcher 3 is considered by people such as myself to be the greatest RPG of all time.
Last edited by Zorro; May 3, 2019 @ 4:28pm
Originally posted by Zorro:
Originally posted by howler77:
such a failure as a troll

+1

Not to mention it doesn't matter. Heck even CDPR put an incredible mechanic in Witcher 3 that allowed you to choose your own cannon from the previous two games through an in-game quest when you're being questioned by the general before you have an audience with the emperor. Things like that are why Witcher 3 is considered by people such as myself to be the greatest RPG of all time.


Assassin's Creed is not the Witcher and there will be no choice in future games to say "I played as Alexios, please tailor this experience to that choice" even if it were a direct sequel. There is only Kassandra.
Originally posted by jack_of_tears:
The entire point of an rpg is that, in your personal playthrough, any choice you make is your personal canon. The novels have to choose one direction by default, because they're novels, but that doesn't invalidate any of your personal decisions.

There is no 'right' or 'wrong' path, there's just your path.

There is no right or wrong path to play, sure. Agreed. Choose what you like. Just saying that in the storyline of the game series, Kassandra is the Eagle Bearer, and Alexios is Deimos. No matter what you pick. The novel's story is canon to the entire series from beginning to end.
Tiudyr645🧉 (Banned) May 3, 2019 @ 5:12pm 
We already know. It is stated in the novel that Kassandra is the main protagonist, not Alexios.
StormhawkV May 3, 2019 @ 6:19pm 
One thing I really dislike is how the game sets up this extremely authentic greek world and then completely disrespects the social facts of the time. It's like every chapter of history has to have the same social standards as our current western civilization these days.

What makes it even worse are the quests where you are confronted with historically accurate problems of everyday life in ancient greece like Markos quests on Kos. Seems like the devs couldn't decide which version of the past they wanted to tell. It's even more cringeworthy than female mercenaries.
Last edited by StormhawkV; May 3, 2019 @ 6:49pm
Originally posted by StormhawkV:
One thing I really dislike is how the game sets up this extremely authentic greek world and then completely disrespects the social facts of the time. It's like every chapter of history has to have the same social standards as our current western civilization these days.

What makes it even worse are the quests where you are confronted with historically accurate problems of everyday life in ancient greece like Markos quests on Kos. Seems like the devs couldn't decide which version of the past they wanted to tell. It's even more cringeworthy than female mercenaries.


Let me help you, because your point of view on this is totally wrong. :) See, in the beginning of Herodotus and Kassandra's friendship he agrees to leave her out of his histories and to omit or change some of it to protect her, and others. That is why Layla Hassan finds the SECRET Histories along with the broken Spear, which reveal all of the information Herodotus felt compelled to leave out of his Histories - which was the major work of one of the only confirmed and extensive historians of his time. Any potential whingeing about historical accuracy is completely shut down by the Secret Histories factor. See, now you can feel 100% better about that.
StormhawkV May 3, 2019 @ 7:27pm 
Originally posted by ( i ) Mr Sardonicus:
Let me help you, because your point of view on this is totally wrong. :) See, in the beginning of Herodotus and Kassandra's friendship he agrees to leave her out of his histories and to omit or change some of it to protect her, and others. That is why Layla Hassan finds the SECRET Histories along with the broken Spear, which reveal all of the information Herodotus felt compelled to leave out of his Histories - which was the major work of one of the only confirmed and extensive historians of his time. Any potential whingeing about historical accuracy is completely shut down by the Secret Histories factor. See, now you can feel 100% better about that.

No, my 'point of view' is not wrong. My 'point of view' is literally scientifically researched facts. Women had a very low social status in ancient greece. They weren't allowed to have a job or own land. You don't need Herodotus to know that. Kassandra is here to cater to the idea that the world we play in is the same as ours from a social point of view which is nuts.
Spritetoggle May 3, 2019 @ 7:32pm 
Originally posted by StormhawkV:
Kassandra is here to cater to the idea that the world we play in is the same as ours from a social point of view which is nuts.

Counterpoint: Kassandra is here because it's a video game and let's make it fun, alright guys?
Last edited by Spritetoggle; May 3, 2019 @ 7:32pm
StormhawkV May 3, 2019 @ 7:36pm 
Originally posted by Spritetoggle:
Counterpoint: Kassandra is here because it's a video game and let's make it fun, alright guys?

Sure, I just think it would have been better if the game explained that, but instead they go full ham and make her canon.
Originally posted by StormhawkV:
Originally posted by Spritetoggle:
Counterpoint: Kassandra is here because it's a video game and let's make it fun, alright guys?

Sure, I just think it would have been better if the game explained that, but instead they go full ham and make her canon.


I don't think games need to explain that they are games. lmao The point is to have fun but yeaaaah the guy in the comment above about how Kassandra is here to make some point is right - she's here to make the point that incels will lose their minds if there's a strong female protagonist. :P

And again, Herodotus squares the circle when it comes to historical accuracy in the game. Period. The existence of the secret histories turns any historical accuracy complaints into mere whining. :) TO be reminded of the secret histories and still continue to try to make a historical accuracy point is to admit, outright, that you are just triggered.
renboy May 4, 2019 @ 5:08am 
The grand majority of people (including Ubisoft themselves) don't really care. Like they said, the game is all about choices, and every choices is correct.

If you want 'canon' don't play the game, read the book instead.

Just enjoy the game however you see fit. For me Alexios is the one and only Misthios, and I enjoyed killing the traitor Kassandra very much.
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