Ubisoft.... PLEASE cut out the sci-fi crap for the next one!

[Justin_760]

First off I adore this game, have put hundreds of hours into it. But I feel it has some serious shortcomings in the lore/story.

Am I alone in my disdain and contempt for the sci-fi drivel of this game? I have no idea why a narrative would INTENTIONALLY break your immersion in a beautifully realized ancient Greek world, to repeatedly remind you that its not actually real and its all just some ridiculous animus simulation. That entirely undermines and invalidates my efforts. All this stuff Im doing in the Greek world is always overshadowed by the fact that it doesnt matter anyway, this is just a simulation within a simulation of a game.

I beg of you Ubisoft DROP THE SCIFI. Does anyone even like this crap? Its just not done well, I want my scifi in my scifi games, and want my ancient/historical stuff on their own.

Is it too much to ask that the scifi stuff be OPTIONAL? Add it in optional side quests that pop up at opportune times, and people who like the scifi can go and watch it all at their leisure. For those like me who do not want their immersion destroyed by a mandatory and convoluted scifi subplot invading their game, we can simply choose not to get dragged into the mess by not doing the scifi quests. It sounds like a pretty reasonable compromise, a win win for all involved.


SPOILERS BELOW


And the Atlantis ending... seriously!? I got hardcore cringes when "Eleuthia" robot woman droned on in her looong monologue about humanity "spreading its wings" and how "were both just rebels!" Omg! So damn hokey, I mean who writes this stuff?

And we are repeatedly told Atlantis must be sealed, that its secret wisdom can bring the end of humanity, yadda yadda. And then Alexios... hands control of Atlantis to the first person who wanders into the cave? He gives it up without a fight, hes just like oh your right Layla, your the chosen one! *insert cliche and korny line about humanity spreading its wings and Layla being the savior of mankind*

And dont even get my started on Layla. Words cannot express how much I dislike this character. Something about her, her face, that just rubs me the wrong way. The game rips me out of the Greek world over and over and FORCES me to play as this woman I have zero interest in, doing petty and trivial things like wandering through tombs Ive already completely explored in the base game for the DLC Atlantis quests. I pray to God that she is not in future AC titles...

[Orge Lambart]

AC has always been a Simulation, you're reliving the person's life for whatever reason you need to relive their lives..

Typically to find some hidden artifact in the real world and or discover some knowledge that has been lost..

In all honesty it's been that way forever and I wouldn't expect it to change..

[Darth Revan]

no, this is one of the core parts of the series, every AC game is about modern day assassins/templar experiencing simulations of the past made with rememberings stored in the DNA by using the animus.
This is assassins creed, the Animus is a huge part of the identity of the AC franchise without that it would not be assassins creed anymore.

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by Orge Lambart:

AC has always been a Simulation, you're reliving the person's life for whatever reason you need to relive their lives..

This. Sounds like OP doesn't like a core part of the series which is unfortunate for him. I didn't find that we're forced out of the main game too often so it doesn't bother me. If it happened more and forced me to sit through for minutes each time without the option to skip dialogue ( I didn't as it is my first playthrough) then it would be a problem.

[0x00]

I prefer it with the sci fi

[Gwahiir]

Originally posted by Justin_760:

I beg of you Ubisoft DROP THE SCIFI. Does anyone even like this crap? Its just not done well, I want my scifi in my scifi games, and want my ancient/historical stuff on their own.

Have you even played any Assassin's Creeds before this one?...

[Spritetoggle]

I like God of War, but I could do without all the mythology references.

I like Tomb Raider, but enough already with the all the ancient ruins.

I like Mass Effect, but I hate having all these story choices.

My point is, you're saying a franchise shouldn't have one of its franchise-defining elements. Like it or not (and it IS totally fair to not like it), Assassin's Creed is Assassin's Creed, and not just another historical adventure series, because of its sci-fi elements.

[bba525]

Sort of like complaining about Shogun 2 - Total War having all that crap about 16th Century Japan in it.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Orge Lambart:

AC has always been a Simulation, you're reliving the person's life for whatever reason you need to relive their lives..

Sure it has, but that's an appeal to tradition logical fallacy. Bad traditions should be abolished, not continued just because those same bad traditions have always been in place in the past.

OP is 100% right: they should 100% cut out all SciFi crap out of all future AC games.

[Voxrox]

I am with you, OP. The thing is, the contemporary stuff never really added much to the game itself. You could have had a game without Desmond, and still enjoy hopping over the rooftops of medieval Italy.

And that was when they still tried to really make something out of the Abstergo plotline...but later it was just shoehorned in, because, well, AC always had these elements, so our pirate game needs something as well..so let's have Abstergo have a gaming and entertainment division...and so on...

Series lost me during AC2 anway, Odysee brought me "back". I never minded the old precursor race stuff, really like that sci fi element actually. But the simulation thing really feels tacked on and unnecessary...no matter if it was always a part of the franchise, it could survive without it, and be even better imho...

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by Orge Lambart:

AC has always been a Simulation, you're reliving the person's life for whatever reason you need to relive their lives..

Sure it has, but that's an appeal to tradition logical fallacy. Bad traditions should be abolished, not continued just because those same bad traditions have always been in place in the past.

OP is 100% right: they should 100% cut out all SciFi crap out of all future AC games.

wheter a specific tradition is good or bad depends on who you ask, we get it, you dont like it, however other people do like it.

ubisoft should keep it in.

[Tiudyr645🧉]

2019 and people still complaining about "sci-fi" elements in an assassins creed game, it's the core of the franchise, without the Animus there won't be any AC. They already cut soooo michnof the modern day sequences because of casuals only wanting to eXpLorE tHe pAsT nOt tHiS mOdErN dAy cRaP. Just, no. Don't make assassins creed even worse than it already is.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

wheter a specific tradition is good or bad depends on who you ask, we get it, you dont like it, however other people do like it.

I'm sure the vast majority of AC players don't like it and don't want it in future AC games.

But Ubisoft can easily prove that either way by putting an official poll on their website and/or Uplay, with a question like: "Do you want SciFi/Animus elements to be present in future AC Games?"

...then a choice of "Yes" or "No."

If they won't outright abolish the SciFi crap, then consulting the players about this matter - and then abiding by their majority decision to abolish it - is the least Ubi can/should do about this issue.

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by Orge Lambart:

AC has always been a Simulation, you're reliving the person's life for whatever reason you need to relive their lives..

Sure it has, but that's an appeal to tradition logical fallacy. Bad traditions should be abolished, not continued just because those same bad traditions have always been in place in the past.

OP is 100% right: they should 100% cut out all SciFi crap out of all future AC games.

Sure, but then it wouldn't be an Assassins Creed game. You can't cut out this essential part of the franchise whether you like it or not as others have already pointed out.

And as I said, it's not overbearing at all, rarely you're forced out of the "animus" and you can get back into it very quickly if you skip the dialogues.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Pastor LuL:

. You can't cut out this essential part of the franchise whether you like it or not as others have already pointed out.

But it's not essential, at all. The games would play just fine without any present-day/animus segments tacked onto them.

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by Dragon:

Originally posted by Pastor LuL:

. You can't cut out this essential part of the franchise whether you like it or not as others have already pointed out.

But it's not essential, at all. The games would play just fine without any present-day/animus segments tacked onto them.

Yes it is essential, the gameplay would not be negatively affected but the story would be, games are not just story or gameplay. You can't cut out part of the story because you find it inconvenient to spend at the most 4 - 6 minutes in the entire playthrough outside of the simulation.