Zoom levels [PERFORMANCE SUGGESTIONS]

[USHiRi-CARROTTRiBE]

At first I was a little skeptical, the camera felt off, but I found out you can edit the camera tilt and zoom levels in:
YOURSTEAMDRIVE:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Close Combat - The Bloody First\Data\Mapview.txt

ZOOMINLIMIT 20
TOPDOWNZOOMINLIMIT 20
PITCH 20
PITCH2 60
PITCHLIMIT 40
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The text above is written by Whimpy from his review and I just repost it since it seems very nice to see your small fellows perform even better :)
Any questions or feedback to add more variety to this just post it here and I add it in


----------------- NolaJeffs settings to get to ground level ------------
(Sometimes the camera can get below the map itself with this setting he wrote)

These are my settings to get the camera low:

ZOOM 100
ZOOMLIMIT 400
ROTATE 0
FOV 40
ZOOMINLIMIT 40
TOPDOWNZOOMLIMIT 300
TOPDOWNZOOMINLIMIT 40
ORDERLINEALPHA 60
ORDERLINEWIDTH 0.5
SELECTIONBOXCOLOUR D0FFFF88

PITCH 10
PITCH2 50
PITCHLIMIT 10
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-----------Trogers settings -----------
These are the settings that worked best for me, gives me the
zoom and pitch I need to see the lay of the land before my units:

ZOOM 100
ZOOMLIMIT 400
ROTATE 0
FOV 40
ZOOMINLIMIT 40
TOPDOWNZOOMLIMIT 300
TOPDOWNZOOMINLIMIT 40
ORDERLINEALPHA 60
ORDERLINEWIDTH 0.5
SELECTIONBOXCOLOUR D0FFFF88

PITCH 20
PITCH2 60
PITCHLIMIT 40

COOPFRAMETINT C08888FF
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[Taehee]

this should be default, atleast pitch lvl

[Sabertooth]

Thank you very much you have made the game so much more enjoyable ;-)

[Hanomag]

This is definitely so much better. It was one of my first observations when playing--that I couldn't zoom in far enough, nor pitch downwards enough. The only issue with changing the values is my zoom-in level is completely locked at the closest level and I am unable to pitch/swivel around using my middle-mouse button when in game. I can't zoom out, nor change pitch--is that normal?

[The Architect]

Originally posted by Troger:

This is definitely so much better. It was one of my first observations when playing--that I couldn't zoom in far enough, nor pitch downwards enough. The only issue with changing the values is my zoom-in level is completely locked at the closest level and I am unable to pitch/swivel around using my middle-mouse button when in game. I can't zoom out, nor change pitch--is that normal?

Try reverting the TOPDOWNZOOMLIMIT back to 300.

[nolaJeff]

Zooming in close isn't really necessary and the game was obviously not designed with that in mind. The 3D models are shockingly bad up close. This has nowhere near the detail of Combat Mission or Graviteam Tactics.

However, the one major improvement in changing the camera settings is to allow the camera to get down near level with the ground so you can really see the topography of the maps. The only downside is that sometimes the camera goes "underground".

These are my settings to get the camera low:

ZOOM 100
ZOOMLIMIT 400
ROTATE 0
FOV 40
ZOOMINLIMIT 40
TOPDOWNZOOMLIMIT 300
TOPDOWNZOOMINLIMIT 40
ORDERLINEALPHA 60
ORDERLINEWIDTH 0.5
SELECTIONBOXCOLOUR D0FFFF88

PITCH 10
PITCH2 50
PITCHLIMIT 10

[Hanomag]

These are the settings that worked best for me, gives me the zoom and pitch I need to see the lay of the land before my units:

ZOOM 100
ZOOMLIMIT 400
ROTATE 0
FOV 40
ZOOMINLIMIT 40
TOPDOWNZOOMLIMIT 300
TOPDOWNZOOMINLIMIT 40
ORDERLINEALPHA 60
ORDERLINEWIDTH 0.5
SELECTIONBOXCOLOUR D0FFFF88

PITCH 20
PITCH2 60
PITCHLIMIT 40

COOPFRAMETINT C08888FF

[USHiRi-CARROTTRiBE]

Originally posted by Sabertooth:

Thank you very much you have made the game so much more enjoyable ;-)

I´m happy to help out.. I just think its pure awesomeness to look it from this perspective to. its sooo cozy :)

[xe5]

One need only compare the topographic awareness afforded by TBF's low-angle camera view with similar but inferior map info that could only be provided using classic CC's right-click + drag, to see the necessity for finally incorporating 3D into the series. Only Thomm's 'quasi-3D' .OVMs for CC4 & 5 and Schnellmeyer's contour mods for PitF/GtC came anywhere close to providing that level of info.

[USHiRi-CARROTTRiBE]

haha, the exact same things we where discussing in another thread, thanks for the info about the mods.

[xe5]

Somewhere in the Steam forum TBF discussions I saw someone refer to the new LOS tool as "pitiful". They must have been thinking of the LOS/LOF line that attaches to the cursor, a direct descendant of the classic CC fire line. OTOH, the new CTRL key viewshed tool is superb. It even shows LOS on the mini-map. And much like the unannounced ALT+right click in CC2 to show reverse LOS, it appears to me that the AI is aggregating LOS's from known player unit positions to plot it movements outside of player LOS.

Cant call that cheating if the player can do it too. Its a tactic where meat puppets cant match software capability.

[USHiRi-CARROTTRiBE]

But some people allways needs to complain on most everything. I think many gamers now feel that they not only have the right to complain about everything a devteam do but also be toxic about it. I hope it gain a strong followergroup like the old 2d variant have and not to many veterans and fans will be scared away.

[milesjb]

I have recently made changes to my map view data in accordance with nolaJeff's numbers.
The zoom in seems to work fine but I cannot get the pitch to work any different than the original numbers. I cannot get down to ground level. Suggestions?

[xe5]

If this image[imgur.com] is more like what youre looking for from ground-level pitch then check Free Camera in Game Options and use the following for Mapview.txt -

ZOOM 128
ZOOMLIMIT 300
ROTATE 0
FOV 40
ZOOMINLIMIT 20
TOPDOWNZOOMLIMIT 300
TOPDOWNZOOMINLIMIT 20
ORDERLINEALPHA 60
ORDERLINEWIDTH 0.5
SELECTIONBOXCOLOUR D0FFFF88

PITCH 40
PITCH2 60
PITCHLIMIT 0

COOPFRAMETINT C08888FF

CURSORICONSIZE 15
MOVEDOTSIZE 1.0