House of faith?

[PieFighter]

I dunno about everyone else, but for me the "House of Faith" seems kinda out of place with the sci-fi/ecology theme. Especially since the bonuses it gives are to soil fertility/medicine/justice. Any chance of something more Hi-tech in its place?

[Mistfox]

... subluminal messaging station? Political education center?

Religion itself occupies a fairly unique position in human society. It's just the name of the building throwing you off. If it was named the more conventional "church" or "temple" it won't have felt so out of place.

I do agree the building itself is jarring and out of place but that is due to the odd name.

[PieFighter]

Ha ha! I know, it just doesn't fit for me. Religion doesn't have much to do with the medicine/fertility benefits I seek when I build the building itself. Given the way the rest of the game seems so science-based, it just feels odd. The big honking cross on top prolly doesn't help either :)

[Veretragna]

I'm not going to defend the faith, but in real world there are religious volunteers in hospitals, righteous people in society etc. Maybe House of Faith is just a form of appreciation for these people.

[PieFighter]

Plenty of non-religious volunteers and good folks in society too though? I think Mistfox had it right; some kind of educational pre-reality TV Discovery channel station maybe? Something a bit more all-faiths/no-faith appropriate to fit the sci-fi theme?

[Veretragna]

Yep, that's why its bonus is only 5% and not 15%. High enough to respect faith but not so high to position it higher than secular society.

[Leonhart Yukikaze]

religions, has always and will always be a thing, no mater the days and ages. saying religion doesn't have a place because it's sci fi, is stupid, specialy concideering this is barely a hundred years in the future, there's no reason for religions to have vanished just like that. Just look at battlestar galactica for exemple, there's no stuff like "the force" or anything there, yet if my memory serves right there's still religions.
Religion is a way for people to escape reality, or pain and mental distress.

It's also, a way to control the populations, or at least the less educated. So the +5% to health(in this case, mental health) and justice/order is covered. Specially since you're giving religious people a place to pray, so they don't riot or anything.

As for the fertility, i guess farming and stuff is often related to religion, albeit, i don't really see how it would actually manage to affect the soil ahah.

I personally find the building to be rather nice looking and original, it fits right in, albeit it doesn't look the part of a church to me. At least shape wise.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by PieFighter:

Plenty of non-religious volunteers and good folks in society too though? I think Mistfox had it right; some kind of educational pre-reality TV Discovery channel station maybe? Something a bit more all-faiths/no-faith appropriate to fit the sci-fi theme?

The degree of religious volunteerism is makedly different from secular segments of the population, it's actually pronounced enough to show up on flatline base statistics.

For example, in Singapore, 25% of the Muslim population donates 50% of all the blood used in the country because they see it as a religious duty instead of an optional activity (this leads to blood shortages during their "fasting" month as they can't donate blood then, leading to sudden periodic losses of up to 50% of the blood supply at times).

I see it as a difference due to how both sides see volunteerism. One side sees it as charity, which can be optional. The other side sees it as a duty, which isn't optional. So the degree of emphasis is very different.

Personally? I just ignore the name and see it as "Production Building 5%, needs food and wine" instead of "House of Faith". They can even name it "House of Dancing Flaming Poo Flinging Monkeys" and it won't matter to me, all that matters is what the building can do and if it fits well into the society framework. In this, calling it a Temple or Church fits better as a "building of society". Or be all modern and call it a "Megachurch".

Do this mental exercise. Take the building and mentally call it a "Church". Then call it a "House of Faith". You'll notice the increased dislike calling it a "House of Faith" in your heart.

It's a very odd thing, habit and emotions.

[Leonhart Yukikaze]

i feel no disconfort what so ever weither i call it a church, house of faith, the all mighty's house.
And god do i hate religions for the most part.
But now that i think about it, there's a bit of logical reason to call it house of faith. Or maybe house of religions.
a church is christian, a mosque is muslim a temple is asian? etc etc etc.
House of faith encompass religions as a whole.
Albeit i feel like the game's story as it's own religion, because of that weird symbole on the window

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Leonhart Yukikaze:

It's also, a way to control the populations, or at least the less educated.

This is actually a commonly perpetuated myth that isn't true. The university I went to, 70% of the professors there had a religion and I found that the more in depth they are in sciences, the higher the chance of them actually believing in a God despite people claiming science and religion are at odds. I think it comes from the mindset that there is something somewhere organizing things to make it orderly, otherwise science won't make sense.

The "only less educated believe in religion" myth comes mostly from atheists that try to use their social ranking to promote their "religion", which is atheism. Since their public stance is "I am a doctor/professor therefore I am above religion" and that gets media attention, it becomes taken that this is a default and ignores the reverse going on behind the scenes.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Leonhart Yukikaze:

Albeit i feel like the game's story as it's own religion, because of that weird symbole on the window

They worship a Goddess because when they upset her, she gave them all the "cold" shoulder.

*looks at all the snow in the game*

[Leonhart Yukikaze]

i meant, religions where originally made, or at least christianism, and maybe muslim, to controle the ever so growing populations back in the days, that kings where losing control off.

[Leonhart Yukikaze]

the part about being less educated, is they don't realize they're being controlled via their beliefs

[Leonhart Yukikaze]

Originally posted by Mistfox:

Originally posted by Leonhart Yukikaze:

Albeit i feel like the game's story as it's own religion, because of that weird symbole on the window

They worship a Goddess because when they upset her, she gave them all the "cold" shoulder.

*looks at all the snow in the game*

........... tsun-tsun goddess?

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Leonhart Yukikaze:

Originally posted by Mistfox:

They worship a Goddess because when they upset her, she gave them all the "cold" shoulder.

*looks at all the snow in the game*

........... tsun-tsun goddess?

+1

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Leonhart Yukikaze:

i meant, religions where originally made, or at least christianism, and maybe muslim, to controle the ever so growing populations back in the days, that kings where losing control off.

Wasn't Christianity the anti-government religion of that time? I recall it was banned and the believers fed to the lions. Same with Islam, their Hegira was them fleeing persecution from Mecca to Medina(?).

People keep thinking they are "government religions" because they are popular now but they started out as anti-government beliefs.