Iratus: Lord of the Dead

Iratus: Lord of the Dead

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bondy034 Jul 17, 2021 @ 2:07am
Female character art
So I'll start by saying I've been very pleasantly surprised by Iratus - game's a lot of fun, characters are interesting (both minions and enemies) and the core gameplay loop is compelling. The devs have done a great job, put in a lot of work and clearly care a lot about the game.

But my biggest gripe - what's up with the female character art? Specifically why do all the female characters look the same - slender with big boobs out? Part of it's probably just a stylistic thing, and I get that, but the male characters get to be diverse and visually interesting, why not the ladies? If we're looking to inspiration, Darkest Dungeon (while not perfect) has a cast of female characters that look far less like pin-up models and more like actually competent warriors.

I'm not sure this is a fixable complaint (at least not without an overhaul of the art) but I guess maybe just in future projects (or DLC for this one) consider some more diversity in the art for the female cast? I'm sure it's not just me that finds it silly and unnecessary...
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Bumc Jul 17, 2021 @ 2:21pm 
Boobs sell ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
On a bit more serious note that's the mods are for -- if DD has dozens of nude mods then we should be able to do clothed undead.
Unfortunately, currently while technically possible, there is no actual interface for modding so you'd be stuck with fiddling with spine models (that didn't stop some insane souls, but you won't find clothed females in their works)
Zanderfel Jul 18, 2021 @ 3:21pm 
Here's something to ponder - how are you sure that some characters are definitely male or female? Obviously many of the enemies, but what of the minions?

Abominations, Skeletons, Reapers, Dark Knights, Wraiths, etc - For Necromancers, what you were in life is of absolutely no concern. Whatever you are made to be by the Necromancer is what you'll be for the rest of eternity, this is true of Necromancers both in Iratus and outside Iratus. Yeah, the Bride is clearly female, but merely cause he designed her that way. Same with the Banshee, though I've never heard of a male version in any lore.

All the other minions could be of either gender. When you raise 2 undead skeletons of different genders, the differences from a distance are hard to notice, you'd have to do a close up examination to figure out which is which.

In truth, I don't see the issue. This is a game about playing an obviously evil necromancer with serious ego issues and whatever. You're not playing a character whose gonna make the world a better place.
Plus, the floors themselves tell you all you need to know - it's ruled by people who don't really care about how you look, merely that you can help stop the tide of unspeakable horror that intends to slaughter them an use their corpses for whatever twisted evil they want.
Bumc Jul 18, 2021 @ 3:45pm 
Iratus himself does care about gender and sexual appeal, or at least he did care in his younger years and now he's somewhat nostalgic about that time. While with skeletons it doesn't really matter whether they are male or female, vampires can be either gender even though they are depicted as female.
And then there's stuff like "bride of Iratus" which is obviously female by design (in good old "They say love is the most powerful force in the universe. I'm trying to harness it to make weapons of mass destruction" way).
On the side note I've seen genderbent versions of Iratus minions and some of them are... quite cursed.
READTHEE Jul 19, 2021 @ 4:35am 
Lord of the Dead

"Hmm, should I reanimate ugly 'diverse' caste of women or.." :lunar2019deadpanpig:

He obviously has a type.

Fast Johnny Jul 19, 2021 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by bondy034:
So I'll start by saying I've been very pleasantly surprised by Iratus - game's a lot of fun, characters are interesting (both minions and enemies) and the core gameplay loop is compelling. The devs have done a great job, put in a lot of work and clearly care a lot about the game.

But my biggest gripe - what's up with the female character art? Specifically why do all the female characters look the same - slender with big boobs out? Part of it's probably just a stylistic thing, and I get that, but the male characters get to be diverse and visually interesting, why not the ladies? If we're looking to inspiration, Darkest Dungeon (while not perfect) has a cast of female characters that look far less like pin-up models and more like actually competent warriors.

I'm not sure this is a fixable complaint (at least not without an overhaul of the art) but I guess maybe just in future projects (or DLC for this one) consider some more diversity in the art for the female cast? I'm sure it's not just me that finds it silly and unnecessary...
I don't know, that Hellion in DD is pretty up there with pinup material, in my opinion. Long legs, slim body, very pleasant face....just saying. But this isn't DD, nor does it try to be.
Sandormen Jul 22, 2021 @ 1:57am 
What's wrong with boobs? :steamhappy:
bondy034 Jul 22, 2021 @ 9:17pm 
It's not fundamentally about boobs, though certainly Darkest Dungeon's mod scene proves there some audience for 'tits-out' presentation in a game like this (even if I personally find it a bit immature). It's that nearly all the female characters have the same body type - if you look at 10 random women you would have 10 very different looks. That isn't represented in the female characters in Iratus.

It's a missed opportunity to showcase some more diversity in the art. Female characters can be just as interesting and diverse looking as male characters. It's just a shame that the art team went with a very 'male-gazey' and uniform presentation for the artstyle for the female minions and enemies imo.
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Death Jul 23, 2021 @ 12:37am 
Not sure if OP is actually just a troll but
they've completely disregarded The Oracle, Shield Maiden, and Ataman.
They are diverse:
the oracle is a little person and of stout build, the shield maiden is strong female covered in plate armor, and the ataman is strong black woman.
Death Jul 23, 2021 @ 12:40am 
nvm.
OP is definitely just a troll or virtue signaling.
Good bait; well-played :tup:
bondy034 Jul 23, 2021 @ 3:21am 
Not a troll, just expressing one of my frustrations with the game - not sure how that's troll-ish?!

There are a few female enemies that look distinct but most of them and certainly all of the minions are one dimensional in terms of presentation. It's not that there are no exceptions, just a comment about the art in general.

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Dragon Jul 23, 2021 @ 5:38am 
Originally posted by bondy034:
my frustrations with the game

I would be frustrated with this game if they did make all the women characters look like hideous ugly men, like 99%+ of modern AAA games do.

That SJW-aesthetic crap has absolutely ruined almost the whole gaming industry, with only a handful of indie devs who don't bend the knee to it as the last bastion of hope for keeping a few good games existing wherein women are drawn to look normal and attractive and feminine, as they are supposed to, and as they have always been since the dawn of time, up until the SJW Puritans have suddenly taken over, like tyrannical dictators, within the last decade or two.

And Darkest Dungeon doing that horrible thing too doesn't mean it should be copied in Iratus. Bad decisions in game design, like that one, should be discarded and rejected, not replicated, to spread like a cancer, and thereby ruin additional games too.
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Rizilliant Jul 23, 2021 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by bondy034:
Not a troll, just expressing one of my frustrations with the game - not sure how that's troll-ish?!

There are a few female enemies that look distinct but most of them and certainly all of the minions are one dimensional in terms of presentation. It's not that there are no exceptions, just a comment about the art in general.
How do you know the werewolf, or skeletons, or some of the others are not female? Better still, why does it matter everytime we see what is deemed "attractive" female characters are games?!

And I have to agree with some of the other comments. Its getting really tiring seeing this constantly pop up in every game forum. Let the developers create their own vision. I dont complain when all male characters look like body builders. Its a game, and should be an escape from all this nonstop social political BS that infects every single minute of real life. We really need to stop inserting it into absolutely everything. Youre creating more people that are sick of it, than you may think.
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HBD Aug 3, 2021 @ 3:44am 
This game has great art, keep it up. I am on the 4th floor and the way how character look is superb.
Warlok Aug 6, 2021 @ 9:34pm 
Originally posted by bondy034:
Not a troll, just expressing one of my frustrations with the game - not sure how that's troll-ish?!

There are a few female enemies that look distinct but most of them and certainly all of the minions are one dimensional in terms of presentation. It's not that there are no exceptions, just a comment about the art in general.

Just referring to the Vampire female, since she's a Vampire, she's supposed to be alluring. "Alluring" can encompass many things, but that certainly encompasses a full figure.

Actually, the Banshee and the archer character never struck me as "enhanced"... I respectfully disagree with the contention.
Yoko Taro >= GOD Aug 7, 2021 @ 1:58am 
Originally posted by bondy034:
Not a troll, just expressing one of my frustrations with the game - not sure how that's troll-ish?!

There are a few female enemies that look distinct but most of them and certainly all of the minions are one dimensional in terms of presentation. It's not that there are no exceptions, just a comment about the art in general.

Diversity doesn't mean there must be 10% male 10% female 10% gay 10% lesbian 10% transgender-not-yet-operated 10% transgender-already-operated 10% non-sex 10% bi-sex 10% chimera and 10% robot.

That's chasing tickbox without actually caring if they were properly portraited as actually being those type or not. Similar to how Fornite's MC gender work. It's the same character that you can just customized gender and skin, but no real interaction depended on the sex or skin.

And Trolling is using obviously fault information to fish correction from others, then using another non-provable information to argue. Which you are doing by claiming that ALL female character look slender and boob-up, which are fault because Werewolf is best girl and she has no boob. (No seriously, the werewolf use female dog anatomy and display no male dog characteristic (as much as how much that apply to werewolf via mapping organ to human equivalent)).
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