no oversteer on acc

[Mexican ground karate]

hello im playing gt7 right now and i noticed there is A LOT of oversteer and car spinning out if you dont throttle coorectly or take a corner too fast. Weirdly this does not seem to be the case in ACC, at least the huracan is not oversteering one bit, is it car specific or the physics of those 2 games are different ? which one would be the mroe realistic

[Sokka]

i think GT is about mid-turn speed i.e how fast you rotate around a corner, while AC is more about turn in (braking) and corner exit (accelerating).
so naturally, its more oversteery on GT, since you need to rotate your car as fast as possible.
however given that these cars (GT3, GT4) are not meant to to be driven this fast, they are usually made much more stiffer when they do race, hence the understeering feeling in acc. and thats why ppl will point out that acc is more "real" than GT, though both are sims,,,

anyhow, to make the car oversteer:
1. turn in :increase toe out on front tyres (Click left)
2. mid turn: close pre-load differential. (click right)
3. Corner exit: Stiffen rear ARB (Click right)

also,, please dont drive without ABS or TC, Youll just be slower and hit ppl ant t1 monza..

there are load of other stuff to do so, just watch a vid or two about acc setup,,

[Mexican ground karate]

the thing is... people encourage me to play with assist off, specially TC

[EF_Neo1st]

Sadhill の投稿を引用：

the thing is... people encourage me to play with assist off, specially TC

"People" are wrong as, well, if you have your fuin with TC and ABS off, fine, but the TC and ABS at setup is there at setup because the real cars have, it is not the same as "assists OFF at game options", at game options yes you should leave all assists OFF.
Again, for "your fun purpose" you can turn everything OFF and even use the lowest settings at setup and have your fun or your challenge all you want (just... try to avoid multiplayer if you can not be consistent with your driving with zero wing, TC and ABS OFF, lowest ride height and going for kerbs and other stuff to min at setup, that because you will basically be a fidget spinner in front of everyone or way too slow and braking so early, also returning to throttle so late, you wont even be predictable on the track).

Not using TC and ABS on a GT3 is the same as not using wings on a F1 car, you can try and can have your fun if that is a thing for you but the cars are meant to be that planted even at high speeds because of the wings (and many other stuff, but take out only the rear or the front wing and the car becomes crap to drive any fast).

Another comparison would be to set wing to zero to be faster (but, you know, wing helps you with stability), to set brake ducts too lowest possible to be faster (but, you know . . your brakes will overheat) and so on . . . what is at setup is at setup for a reason, the lower you can drive and deal with at setup the better for you if you can actually be faster with it, but if someone say "turn TC and ABS OFF because that is how good drivers drive or how real man do" . . . this someone knows nothing and just want to prove himself to be better than others (even aliens turn TC and ABS OFF just at some turns and usually they leave one of the both at either 1 or 2, not both at zero at the same time, at least I never saw anyone doing it and doing any good).

[Mexican ground karate]

EF_Neo1st の投稿を引用：

Sadhill の投稿を引用：

the thing is... people encourage me to play with assist off, specially TC

"People" are wrong as, well, if you have your fuin with TC and ABS off, fine, but the TC and ABS at setup is there at setup because the real cars have, it is not the same as "assists OFF at game options", at game options yes you should leave all assists OFF.
Again, for "your fun purpose" you can turn everything OFF and even use the lowest settings at setup and have your fun or your challenge all you want (just... try to avoid multiplayer if you can not be consistent with your driving with zero wing, TC and ABS OFF, lowest ride height and going for kerbs and other stuff to min at setup, that because you will basically be a fidget spinner in front of everyone or way too slow and braking so early, also returning to throttle so late, you wont even be predictable on the track).

Not using TC and ABS on a GT3 is the same as not using wings on a F1 car, you can try and can have your fun if that is a thing for you but the cars are meant to be that planted even at high speeds because of the wings (and many other stuff, but take out only the rear or the front wing and the car becomes crap to drive any fast).

Another comparison would be to set wing to zero to be faster (but, you know, wing helps you with stability), to set brake ducts too lowest possible to be faster (but, you know . . your brakes will overheat) and so on . . . what is at setup is at setup for a reason, the lower you can drive and deal with at setup the better for you if you can actually be faster with it, but if someone say "turn TC and ABS OFF because that is how good drivers drive or how real man do" . . . this someone knows nothing and just want to prove himself to be better than others (even aliens turn TC and ABS OFF just at some turns and usually they leave one of the both at either 1 or 2, not both at zero at the same time, at least I never saw anyone doing it and doing any good).

supergt (the youtuber) drive with no TC and does super well, thats why i am asking

[EF_Neo1st]

Sadhill の投稿を引用：

EF_Neo1st の投稿を引用：

"People" are wrong as, well, if you have your fuin with TC and ABS off, fine, but the TC and ABS at setup is there at setup because the real cars have, it is not the same as "assists OFF at game options", at game options yes you should leave all assists OFF.
Again, for "your fun purpose" you can turn everything OFF and even use the lowest settings at setup and have your fun or your challenge all you want (just... try to avoid multiplayer if you can not be consistent with your driving with zero wing, TC and ABS OFF, lowest ride height and going for kerbs and other stuff to min at setup, that because you will basically be a fidget spinner in front of everyone or way too slow and braking so early, also returning to throttle so late, you wont even be predictable on the track).

Not using TC and ABS on a GT3 is the same as not using wings on a F1 car, you can try and can have your fun if that is a thing for you but the cars are meant to be that planted even at high speeds because of the wings (and many other stuff, but take out only the rear or the front wing and the car becomes crap to drive any fast).

Another comparison would be to set wing to zero to be faster (but, you know, wing helps you with stability), to set brake ducts too lowest possible to be faster (but, you know . . your brakes will overheat) and so on . . . what is at setup is at setup for a reason, the lower you can drive and deal with at setup the better for you if you can actually be faster with it, but if someone say "turn TC and ABS OFF because that is how good drivers drive or how real man do" . . . this someone knows nothing and just want to prove himself to be better than others (even aliens turn TC and ABS OFF just at some turns and usually they leave one of the both at either 1 or 2, not both at zero at the same time, at least I never saw anyone doing it and doing any good).

supergt (the youtuber) drive with no TC and does super well, thats why i am asking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2S1Nh-G4Ik
Not really, he dont drive with TC and ABS OFF at ACC (as far as I know) but yes, he is good.

[goblueteam]

also not many people are at super gt level unless your like a esports driver im not sure anyone should really be doing what aliens are doing to start out you will probably just end up frustrated i also personally think there is no way GT7 can be as accurate with how cars actually perform when theres so many different cars in the game not saying its bad i really have no idea but the good thing about ACC is its all very specific on pretty low number of cars so it can be much more detailed and fine tuned i also think anything that is not planning on going to PC or console only is going to be very limited even ACC on console is not really the same game i started on the xbox series x.
i mean personally i never played any of the newer GT games as i never had a playstation after the original but it seems much more oriented for controller driving and even alot of videos lately have come out showing on GT7 there is not much difference between driving with a wheel or a controller as far as lap times but that they feel like this is because the game is a bit limited so that they are basically competitive with a controller or a wheel and that even with everything turned off there still seems to be assists on when using a controller- keep in mind this is just something i heard in a review comparing a wheel vs controller.
i would think ACC is completely the opposite where a controller is just a second thought and there main focus is wheel support and force feedback and physics to make a wheel feel a certain way.

as far as not using TC and ABS it is basically a must for GT3 cars maybe theres some corners here and there you can turn it down or off but unless someone is just messing around they are not turning it off sliding =losing time and destroying tires so its just not something you really want typically most default setups are more understeer to make it a bit on the safer side or thats how i see it.

i think its really hard to compare GT7 and ACC as they are just so different and have much different purposes Gt7 is made for the masses and does a extremely broad amount of cars/classes.
ACC is very specific and is the official SRO GT3 game that has to meet alot of requirements do to this contract license agreement this means they can really work on each car much more and basically have to collect a ton of data for each car to make it fit as close to the real life series as possible at least this is how i think about it maybe im a bit off this is all mostly opinion or stuff i have heard so some things may be inaccurate im sure others know much more than i do.

[grizta30]

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EF_Neo1st の投稿を引用：

supergt (the youtuber) drive with no TC and does super well, thats why i am asking

Super gt plays gran turismo, very different games, GT is designed to be inbetween a sim and an arcade game, ACC is designed to be more realistic.

[DarkFoxPlays]

Sadhill の投稿を引用：

in simracing games generally ?

Has nothing to do with "sim racing" and everything to do with the cars. Modern GT cars are built to be driven with TC. When the tires are cold and not up to pressure - TC set higher. Good temp and pressure, TC lower. Wet? Higher. Track rubbered in after a weekend of practice? Lower. Same goes with ABS. Different circumstances (heat, pad wear) call for different settings. I will start a race with TC set to 6 out of 12 assuming good racing conditions then dial it back to 2 or 3 after 2 or three laps and then adjust again when the tires start falling off with grip