PUBLIC SERVERS ARE FULL OF IDIOTS OR CRACK SMOKERS

[76561199445369162]

It's virtually impossible to finish a race or, often, the first lap without being run over by some idiot who can't brake or ride shoulder to shoulder.

[Speedy]

im not trying to be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ persone, but buddy public lobbies are not the place for fair and clean racing, you are searching for fish in the desert.

you have 2 options, join some league races where they have strict rules and clean proven drivers.
option 2 is to try out LFM (low fuel motorsport) its basically an independent platform that has ranks and safety ratings, the thing is, if you or anyone does a dive bomb or causes a colision, you can actually report him and he gets hsi safety rating downgraded, its very strict, which i like, some people may not agree with me but my lfm experiece is very very good, i did some mistakes and got reported , and i reported some people for getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ myself, but it is a very good system, better then these public lobbies with manchilds and people with so much ego to the point they ram you if you pass them ;;
good luck

[Nasder]

I think the main problem is the mentality of the people. They learn to hotlap. Can hotlap well.

But throw in other cars on the track, the rail they learned to drive to hotlap is no longer a viable option because there's cars in the way, braking references blocked and then they can't drive the track any other way and thus crash into other cars or drive off the track.

I am not saying that this is always the case, but from my experience this is a main reason.

So sadly either wish you get into a lobby with people who can race and not just drive fast (they are different in my opinion) or join a league or a likeminded community that host races once in a while.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by Nasder:

I think the main problem is the mentality of the people. They learn to hotlap. Can hotlap well.

But throw in other cars on the track, the rail they learned to drive to hotlap is no longer a viable option because there's cars in the way, braking references blocked and then they can't drive the track any other way and thus crash into other cars or drive off the track.

I am not saying that this is always the case, but from my experience this is a main reason.

So sadly either wish you get into a lobby with people who can race and not just drive fast (they are different in my opinion) or join a league or a likeminded community that host races once in a while.

yeah, being fast is one thing, having actual racecraft is a whole other thing

[nono782]

When you get used to it there is a kind of challenge in anticipating what stupid move they might do.
It’s good to avoid a crash just because you saw it coming.

[Nasder]

Originally posted by nono782:

When you get used to it there is a kind of challenge in anticipating what stupid move they might do.
It’s good to avoid a crash just because you saw it coming.

Indeed, avoiding things is a very nice skill to have in racing. Seeing that car entering the corner far ahead of you, noticing he's going a little too tight so you slow down and take a slightly different approach and then avoiding the spun car. It's a great feeling and might net you a few positions because of those who didn't see it coming.

[proufis]

Try LFM (Lowfuelmotorsport), they have their own ratingsystem and put you in races with drivers with similar ratings as yours. The Rating is also split into two categories, the ELO-Rating (which is basicly your skill-level) and they have their own saftey-rating.

You will surely find some Idiots there too, but the fact, that you have to have at least 80 SA (in the Kunos-Rating) to do the License-test (at least 7 good laps which have to be under a certain time, somewhere around 1:59 on les castellets) keeps may bad drivers / drivers who just want to destroy the fun of others away.

+It's kind of addicting to try raising your own Rating!

[rob_every05]

The quality of public servers has dropped hugely in the last couple of weeks, I do not really know why.

I think possibly most proper players are DLC nerds and are doing what happened on the old AC just sitting at the Ring hotlapping, and doing league racing.

The quality of online racing in most servers has dropped so much in the last week or so I will likely uninstall the game, it really is THAT poor right now.

Plus the recent update has made the game feel far worse for me and the way I drive it really is not worth playing this game right now, I start and just stop after about 10 minutes as it just offers me nothing anymore.

[BigDongle]

LFM has also had the same dramatic decline in driver behavior. Anyone can game an 80 SR with no actual racing skill, and hotlap the rookie test. Too many overly aggressive drivers that can't make T1 of lap 1 without wrecking the field. And you can be suspended for calling them out in game chat or site chat all while you need a youtube channel to do any kind of reporting of them... which feels like a deterrent to report them. It is not the solution it is just a different kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥... drive at your own risk. If you can justify the cost of iRacing, it is consistently less terrible but you are always dealing with other ppl. It is unavoidable sadly.

LFM is a victim of its own success. The cost barrier to iRacing and the risk of losing that investment keeps some ppl, slightly more considerate. There are also other leagues like pit skill.io and some ppl spamming the ACC discord.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Speedy:

Originally posted by Nasder:

I think the main problem is the mentality of the people. They learn to hotlap. Can hotlap well.

But throw in other cars on the track, the rail they learned to drive to hotlap is no longer a viable option because there's cars in the way, braking references blocked and then they can't drive the track any other way and thus crash into other cars or drive off the track.

I am not saying that this is always the case, but from my experience this is a main reason.

So sadly either wish you get into a lobby with people who can race and not just drive fast (they are different in my opinion) or join a league or a likeminded community that host races once in a while.

yeah, being fast is one thing, having actual racecraft is a whole other thing

Keep in mind even professional drivers with good record of driving experience may make mistakes too so "novice players" are more prone to mistakes (and open lobbiees are full of novice players eeven more when game goes on sale), also the Dunning Kruger effect too, where someone becomes slightly faster or fast and thinks "the world now must revolve around my belly button" thinking every other driver must drive thinking to nott hit them and must understant their intentions and open a path, while some other drivers just think "I will defend this position no matter the cost and will regain my position at all costs" being far too oveer aggressive and not knowing what "racecraft or respect" mean thinking everything is fine because they have the right to fight for position ....
And these are points that apply to either defending or trying to overtake:
- when swerving under braking in front of car that is already commited to the move and to their line and have nowhere left to go
- leaning toward driver that is already by the side
- leaning into driver that is already at the apex and have nowhere to go
- letting the car go wider throwing the other car offtrack
- using the other car as braking point
- using the otther car to do the turn
- overdriving the car to fight for position
- etc
It is like if you mix Montoya (win or wall) with Stroll (dont care at all) and Mazepin (over aggressive but lacking skills and racecraft) and put it all together in the same driver thinking they will be the next Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Alonso, Raikkonen, Vettel, Hamilton, Verstappen by just driving it like it is NFS Underground. (and many times you see theese with low or no TC, low or no ABS too, making it all harder on themselves even if they did not want to cause accident).

[rob_every05]

I am noticing a hell of a lot of people running very fast lap times with red rookie tags, this must mean they have deleted some data in their Steam files to start again.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by rob_every05:

I am noticing a hell of a lot of people running very fast lap times with red rookie tags, this must mean they have deleted some data in their Steam files to start again.

Or people that are fast at other sims but did not had played ACC before.

[Ulanthorn]

Originally posted by rob_every05:

I am noticing a hell of a lot of people running very fast lap times with red rookie tags, this must mean they have deleted some data in their Steam files to start again.

You can easily use more then 1 steam account and play the game via family share function. I use two driver profiles to spare my SA 85 profile for meaningfull events, the other one at SA 55 is just to wittness the daily bullshittery on public lobbies where pro think that the best way around a slighty slower car in front is right through the rear.

[DeW']

Originally posted by smas07956:

It's virtually impossible to finish a race or, often, the first lap without being run over by some idiot who can't brake or ride shoulder to shoulder.

Well It's not the people but system they are using to prevent this. I've seen arcade games had better system than this game have. And people are stupid enough to go with this system putting 90+ SA on public server.

For me, for example. I played sims from my early 12 and never seen problems like this in other games where system kinda works. This doesn't and as long as devs or who decide about systems will not realize this people will always and I mean always abuse the system. I know lots and lots of good players, good sports and they rather stick to AC or AMB2 than this game, And so do I. AC doesn't have system like this and people who are still racing online have more respect to each other than here. That's a fact.

What I do in ACC is mostly play with AI and some hotlaps, I attend online once in a decade with hope something will change. And till n ow no change whatsoever.

LMF and other things are not interesting me. It's not my job and I sure will not make licence for every single race etc .... I just don't have time nor nerves for something like that.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by DeW':

Originally posted by smas07956:

It's virtually impossible to finish a race or, often, the first lap without being run over by some idiot who can't brake or ride shoulder to shoulder.

Well It's not the people but system they are using to prevent this. I've seen arcade games had better system than this game have. And people are stupid enough to go with this system putting 90+ SA on public server.

For me, for example. I played sims from my early 12 and never seen problems like this in other games where system kinda works. This doesn't and as long as devs or who decide about systems will not realize this people will always and I mean always abuse the system. I know lots and lots of good players, good sports and they rather stick to AC or AMB2 than this game, And so do I. AC doesn't have system like this and people who are still racing online have more respect to each other than here. That's a fact.

What I do in ACC is mostly play with AI and some hotlaps, I attend online once in a decade with hope something will change. And till n ow no change whatsoever.

LMF and other things are not interesting me. It's not my job and I sure will not make licence for every single race etc .... I just don't have time nor nerves for something like that.

LFM is 1 license for the LFM not for each race.
Also the license is more like a "min skill requirement" (to be minimally fast and consistent at some track), what I think should be the first goal for everyone and is not even a hard thing (I think it is 6% off the best times or 8% off, quite lenient andd easy to achieve the 7 consecutive laps under 6% or 8%).

[DeW']

Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:

Originally posted by DeW':

Well It's not the people but system they are using to prevent this. I've seen arcade games had better system than this game have. And people are stupid enough to go with this system putting 90+ SA on public server.

For me, for example. I played sims from my early 12 and never seen problems like this in other games where system kinda works. This doesn't and as long as devs or who decide about systems will not realize this people will always and I mean always abuse the system. I know lots and lots of good players, good sports and they rather stick to AC or AMB2 than this game, And so do I. AC doesn't have system like this and people who are still racing online have more respect to each other than here. That's a fact.

What I do in ACC is mostly play with AI and some hotlaps, I attend online once in a decade with hope something will change. And till n ow no change whatsoever.

LMF and other things are not interesting me. It's not my job and I sure will not make licence for every single race etc .... I just don't have time nor nerves for something like that.

LFM is 1 license for the LFM not for each race.
Also the license is more like a "min skill requirement" (to be minimally fast and consistent at some track), what I think should be the first goal for everyone and is not even a hard thing (I think it is 6% off the best times or 8% off, quite lenient andd easy to achieve the 7 consecutive laps under 6% or 8%).

It might be, but when i want to race, I just wan't to race. I don't see the point to be forced to join some league to race normaly. I don't know. Is this hard to understand that some of us just want to have fun.

Look at Gran Turismo. If I hit someone, I get the penalty not both parties. This game is punishing the one who want to be reckless and the one who wants to drive as intended. I mean, cmon, what kinda system is that.