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But that doesn't make the car faster than the new Porsche, it just isn't.
As for setups; Go Setups updated they pack already and Rennwelten announced, that they will work on them, too (tho, it was month ago, that they said that, soooo)
A shame really. Personally, i like the 991.2 much more and IRL it still seems to be a good car. It won in it's class during the 12 hours of Bathurst.
There are three setups for each track.
Setup is more a preference imo.
If you have 2000 hours in that car on all tracks - yeah.
But for normal players a decent setup can be >5s of a difference.
I have a Audi Evo setup that makes the car glued to the track - none of the 3 basic setup does that. It is faster and the downforce is insane. Nothing i would specify as "a preference".
And these "glued to the track" setups are using the TC2 glitch.
You have to decide whether you want to cheat and exploit bugs in the game, or do a proper setup.
Obviously it's all about cheating here.
The OP doesn't care or can't even explain what bothers him about the car or why the standard setups aren't enough for him.
I tried the 2019 with the standard setup and have no major complaints.
And if you really want to cheat, you can still set TC2 to 0 yourself. That's the whole "trick" of these great setups.
5s per lap ... at Spa would be 3.7%, what I think is "sort of" fine, at Bathrust would be 4.2%, a bit too much but still would stretch intk the "sort of fine" ... but at Misano it would be 5.4% abd at Brands would be 6.1%, far too much of a difference, also I find it hard to believe someone would go from 1:42 to 1:37 or 1:40 to 1:35 at Misano or from 1:32 to 1:27 or 1:30 to 1:25 at Brands Hatch with setup alone ...
I can maybe accept someone improve 5s going from 2:32 to 2:27 at Spa or from 2:14 to 2:09 at Bathrust but beyond 2s of these times no setup will do any magic if the driver dont know trailbraking, racing line (not the ingame racing line) and when to return to throttle also how to properly return to throttle.
Knowing all that anyone on default or with minimal adjustments would already be able to do better than 2:25 at Spa and 2:09 at Bathrust and I can maybe conceive that setup alone may change the car so much it allows a 2:21 or 2:20 (from 2:25) at Spa but at Bathrust I doubt the 2:09 driver would reach 2:04 or 2:05 with setup alone ... much less a driver at Misano that already do 1:37, this one will not magically do 1:32s or 1:33s on setup alone much less going from 1:25 at Brands to 1:21 or 1:22 on setup alone.
Sorry but, not joking or making fun in amy way, if you are so slow a magical setup finds you 5s, you would be better off with practice at trailbraking, racing line (not the ingame racing line) and when to return to throttle also how to properly return to throttle or you may have high chances of getting locked at these lap times for far longer than what you would like (amd without learning what you should learn).
Yes, setup may make difference even more if too many changes are made, but a fast driver will be fast regardless as much as an alien will be alien regardless and maybe being possible to find 1% (2% maybe) with setup but usually it is something around 0.5% or ranging between 0.5% to 1%, 4%, 5% or more on setup alone I would advise to learn properly instead of relying on something that is only masking bad driving.
for me i just dont like driving the default setups and drive much worse with the default setups to the point that i dont trust it enough to push or believe the car will make the turn also many more mistakes and corrections are needed.
when i do a custom setup or download one its like smooth sailing the car does what i want pretty much all the time also if your switching between cars being able to change the setup to sort of fit yourself really can help.
to me i just dont think any of the defaults should be coming with the brake bias so far forward and also the wrong engine map sometimes
the aggressive presets are almost worse then the safe over stiff low wing nightmares to drive in many cases especially if your not doing 10-20min race.
i usually go find a setup on fri3d0lf youtube there free and quite nice/capable usually i just use this as a base and still make my own adjustments after a few laps many times just things like ride height maybe brake bias/tc/abs
here is a vidoe of the 911.2 or w/e it is lol sadly a 1.8 setup the last one he put out for this car so one thing is you dont want the crazy -toe on the rear especially i would try between -.1-+.1 on the rear toe maybe -.25 on the front shows setup in video or you can download in the description google linkg usually qauly and race setup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xywbm0uN87s
sometimes ill use jardiers(link in his youtube video description) setups from his website but honestly not as big of a fan of the "meta" type setup with all the min max settings although they can be pretty fast i find that these settings dont always give the best results on some cars....for me at least.
so yea idk older cars will be harder to find setups for i would just use the 1.8 setup and make some adjustments max -toe on the rear is not the way anymore lol so change that for sure max-camber is still good
i think maybe super fast aliens can get w.e a little out of it but i dont think its making the car have extra grip or something just that its not really working properly i would not consider this cheating though.
for example lately i drive the aston martin v8 i have a setup with tc1 3 tc2 off and another with tc1 1 and tc2 6 and i get the same lap times out of both.
the thing that really bothers me is the actual tc off completely i see in most of the esports races also in the rain they are only using tc1 1 and abs 1 some how lol
anyways i do wish all the bugs/weird setup tricks would be dealt with better/faster/actually addressed by kunos
seems like its always something not working properly/bugging out the setup through all the versions of the game. max-toe super hot tires in the wet min/max dampers tc bugs and all this stuff is just getting pretty old and does idk make me feel less good about ACC
and it just makes me question if im driving better/improving or the game is just more bugged out just sucks to have these questions floating around in your head because of flaws/bugs that keep coming up every new patch.
That doesn't make any sense.
And it's clear that everyone in ESport uses the glitch, bug, whatever, otherwise you just don't stand a chance.
You can easily try it out yourself, drive a few laps with the standard setup, adjust the tyre temperature and brake balance as you like, try again and then drive again with TC2 off.
As already mentioned, the car is "glued to the track" and after 3/4 of a lap I'm usually at least 1 sec. faster than before. (I then stop so as not to mess up my statistics).
There are also no other changes in the setup that can cause such a drastic change in driving behaviour through a click. And that is correct and realistic.
For me, it feels as if you have activated arcade mode in the game.
TC OFF is OFF therefore "not working" therefore it should never be engaged like it does here.
in 1.9 more or less the tc is triggering before the tires are getting max grip now so turning it off means you can get full potential of the tire grip and do faster laps.
where in version 1.8 the tc would trigger right after max grip so you could run higher tc and still get full potential out of the tire before it would trigger.
also the tires in 1.9 just seem to be able to be pushed much harder and just maybe allow to much aggressive driving.
anyways heres the video its really good information to help you understand whats going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJjDmGSjJOg
Without TC, very few people here will be a second faster straight away I think, but without TC2 they will be.
I would like to see a proper setup thread here where you can discuss what to do if the car shows a certain behaviour that you don't like.
But unfortunately it's always just about how to exploit bugs and glitches.
I think that's a shame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2jKagBEhAs
Is me on default safe, lower brake bias and engine map 1 wwith tyres pressure adjusted, and considering how much I drive peer day also the fact I sometimes spend weeks or even 1 to 2 (or maybe 3) months not touching anything related to simracing, if someone as casual as me can get there others can too but...
... what do the player want? Advantage "now" or the advantage of actually learning to improve and being able to adapt faster to new tracks and new car (also car classes), maybe not driving up to the same "pace" but getting closer to that much faster and even on default setups.
I still stand that setup is like car, it is "more" a preference even tho there are better setups per track, etc, without any exploit, a different car that fits your driving style (preference) will do better for you even if the car is not the OP car or one of the meta cars.