Car setups

[SlimDown57]

Car setups are way too complicated!

[Priappe]

Two interesting links.
https://www.acc-wiki.info/wiki/Setup_Guide_for_Beginners#Aero
https://www.acc-wiki.info/images/a/a1/Setup_guide_for_beginners.jpeg

[EF_Neo1st]

For beginners, default setups, these are already safe enough (if aggressive is not enough, default safe) that a beginner is able to tamme the car not to spin around everywhere and be able to brake at proper braking points without just killing self with a spin or going offtrack.

What a beginner need is to understand the basics and above all the concept of trailbraking and how to apply it (tip for beginners: trailbraking is only "if you trailbrake into the turn apex", if you "trailbrake in a straight line" you are not trailbraking, you are just releasing brake more smoothly).

[konstantynopolitaneczka]

I disagree with everyone that says "it's a sim so it should be hard"

Assetto corsa (og) has tips for every setup. What increasing/decreasing value does to the car, how it behaves etc. In ACC we have everything bundled up together, a wall of text that says nothing except what you might already know.

[EF_Neo1st]

Автор сообщения: couturemk57

No problem if they don't want new players them keep the status Que.

Considering how good the defaults already are and are set per car/track combo and track condition dry/wet (what no other sim provide) and these defaults are safe so good for a casual new player and good enough to be competitive even among fast drivers, less for aliens ... tho I would not mind explanations per setup settings, I rarely touch setup myself.

[EF_Neo1st]

Автор сообщения: couturemk57

Автор сообщения: EF_Neo1st

Considering how good the defaults already are and are set per car/track combo and track condition dry/wet (what no other sim provide) and these defaults are safe so good for a casual new player and good enough to be competitive even among fast drivers, less for aliens ... tho I would not mind explanations per setup settings, I rarely touch setup myself.

That's ok i'll stick with other driving games.

Well, even tho:

Автор сообщения: couturemk57

Car setups are way too complicated they should be setup by the level you chose like Beginner through Expert. With beginner with all the bells and Whistle's for easy drive. Obviously this game is not for me.

I gave you your answer (ACC defaults are with all bells and Whistle's for easy drive), ACC just dont really have a "hard to drive" setup, that you can copy from aliens setups that use very low Brake Bias and low TC//ABS settings (but dont use TC2 = zero/OFF)

[EF_Neo1st]

Up to you tho, you can learn about basic setup and about driving here, just saying.
there are other sims anyway (still none give you setups like you asked for, from beginner to expert and usually are more on the "harder to deal" side while also usually not being competitive as these setups are not made by car/track combo, usually is some "factory default" or "very aggressive default")

[goblueteam]

idk anyone that is actually planning on learning a game/sim or w/e should expect to have a learning curve idk.... its just strange to complain or be upset about having to learn the game your trying to play lol.

i think many games these days are very short and do not take much effort or are full of assists to make it easy for people that dont want to learn.

ACC is one of those games that you can spend hundreds or thousands of hours learning and improving your skills/knowledge of the game. this is pretty rare these days...

for me i think most people will have to spend 20-50 hours just getting idk started in ACC most games are over by this point.
it takes many hours of time put in and really to get to a average level of skill unless your already very familiar with sim racing specifically it could take 200-500 hours to really become one with the car and just sort of get to the average/decent driver level...

ACC was my first sim racing game i think around 500 hours in is about when i started to really be able to compete with the average to slightly above average drivers... and also when i started to feel like i could put the car just about wherever i wanted with exact precision and control while still going fast also the ability to just tell what other people are going to do a lot of the time..

1700 hours in now i race much less and probably am on the decline as far as being super tuned in to the car and how its reacting i can still do ok but unless your really keeping yourself sharp you will lose some skill level that does not really mean im slower now because i am still beating pb lap times pretty often but my overall consistency and ability to just idk do things without thought naturally has fallen off greatly in my opinion.

for me setups help a lot even just changing settings on your own while doing practice laps to me is a great way to learn a car and how you like it setup

many many races i was getting lapped or crashing almost every race for months probably racing everyday eventually i started being able to keep up with people and eventually started challenging for podiums and even winning races against people that were lapping me in the previous months so idk it can be very rewarding to having to struggle a bit as it makes it feel so much better when you do start doing well.

hear is a sort of cheat sheet for setups by chrishaye on youtube this is not for ACC specifically just sort of a general setup guide that should help you understand what to try to adjust in certain situations it is old and everything it says is not going to be absolutely correct but many of the things will help or steer you in the right direction and give you things to trial and error. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fjpebxpm5nrw11.jpg

[ANOK]

Автор сообщения: goblueteam

ACC was my first sim racing game i think around 500 hours in is about when i started to really be able to compete with the average to slightly above average drivers...

I got 420 hours in and just about starting to make, to me, decent results in races, and by that I mean not crashing and not coming last all the time, but still far away from doing any record laps. I only win races when everyone else crashes lol

The main thing I have learned is to not focus so much on winning, but just enjoying racing and learning. Some professional race drivers go through their whole careers without winning a single race.

[grizta30]

Автор сообщения: konstantynopolitaneczka

I disagree with everyone that says "it's a sim so it should be hard"

Who sais that? its a sim its designed to be as realistic as possible, thats it, not hard, not easy

[shadow82]

Автор сообщения: ANOK

The main thing I have learned is to not focus so much on winning, but just enjoying racing and learning.

Anyone going into racing with a mentality solely focused on winning is here for a huge wake up call. Not even talking about the real thing, for a game this is most likely the worst environment to have such mentality. In a fighting game your chance of winning are 1 out of 2 person, in a racing game it will more be 1 out of 20 if not even more. Winning in that situation is more about finishing higher than were you started or beating people with similar skill level, sometime, yeah, it will mean finishing 1st.

[konstantynopolitaneczka]

Автор сообщения: grizta30

Автор сообщения: konstantynopolitaneczka

I disagree with everyone that says "it's a sim so it should be hard"

Who sais that? its a sim its designed to be as realistic as possible, thats it, not hard, not easy

is menu layout supposed to be hard to read, just because it's a sim? IMO it shouldn't and I advise to stop gatekeeping easy access to games like academic professors gatekeep their papers. It's crazy how much readability downgrade ACC suffered from AC and somehow people keep defending it.

[EF_Neo1st]

Автор сообщения: konstantynopolitaneczka

Автор сообщения: grizta30

Who sais that? its a sim its designed to be as realistic as possible, thats it, not hard, not easy

is menu layout supposed to be hard to read, just because it's a sim? IMO it shouldn't and I advise to stop gatekeeping easy access to games like academic professors gatekeep their papers. It's crazy how much readability downgrade ACC suffered from AC and somehow people keep defending it.

Well, the menu laayout is ages easier to deal with in comparison to Assetto Corsa (that requires Content Manager to properly work, I still remember sspending 15min in AC menus to try and select car and track to practice 15min to 30min... that thing is horrendous, ACC menu layouts arre quite easy and intuitive to follow) and also in comparison to old rFactor 2 menus layout too.

About "menu layout" I see little to no reason where someone would get lost or would "make a beginner life hard".

Ok, the setups menu dont have all info you want about all settings, ok I give you that, but menus layout "hard to read" it is not (much less to understand where to go to find what you wantt, there are a few things I can imagine "bieng difficult to find" but that would not immediately affect a beginner),

[Naindurth]

I agree that for instance ECU MAP it's just numbers, and it even works different from car to car, and there's absolutely no description. Why do I have to google that info?
brakes ducts ranging from 0 to 6? which is which?
front and rear brakes? what is that number? Google.

Mind you I'm a total ignorant bout "car setups", but I can't learn it within the game

[EF_Neo1st]

Автор сообщения: Naindurth

I agree that for instance ECU MAP it's just numbers, and it even works different from car to car, and there's absolutely no description. Why do I have to google that info?
brakes ducts ranging from 0 to 6? which is which?
front and rear brakes? what is that number? Google.

Mind you I'm a total ignorant bout "car setups", but I can't learn it within the game

Brake Bias the "higher" the percentage the more to the front it is, the "lower" the percentage the more to the rear it is.

[grizta30]

Автор сообщения: konstantynopolitaneczka

Автор сообщения: grizta30

Who sais that? its a sim its designed to be as realistic as possible, thats it, not hard, not easy

is menu layout supposed to be hard to read, just because it's a sim? IMO it shouldn't and I advise to stop gatekeeping easy access to games like academic professors gatekeep their papers. It's crazy how much readability downgrade ACC suffered from AC and somehow people keep defending it.

Who's gatekeeping? you can either learn setup or use the default safe or aggressive setups, what is so difficult about that?