Cheaters everywhere.

[medioman-ita]

Since I had been thrown off the track at the start on LFM I went back to try a public race. In qualifying at SPA 4 players were setting times from 2:15.500 to 2:16.500. Obviously some of these players in the race in the corners missed the braking point and went straight (classic beginner's mistake). The shameful thing is that at the end of the race they were giving each other advice on what kind of cheats they were using and how to activate them. In the end they would meet on Discord to exchange cheats. The problem of cheaters is now blatant and I find them on almost every public server. But is Kunos doing anything? Even the possibility of reporting the player would be enough to get them banned. I enclose a photo I took of the chat: https://ibb.co/9qcZW60

[EF_Neo1st]

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EF_Neo1st の投稿を引用：

Yes, as your example at Monza, I can reach 48s during race on default "safe" with 2 minor adjustments + tyres pressure adjustment, for others it is undriveable even tto reach 1:50s on default safe with the same car but with their setups they may even be faster than me. About the "oother guys setups", I dont care if they use realistic setups or not or what setups they use (or if they driive defaults or not), I driive for myself and use others just as benchmark for what is possible.

I only do 1.48s at monza recently. On public servers I see qualifying times of 1.45s

I do quali with race fuel (to adjust tyres pressure for the race) or with about half that fuel (what allow for a "about correct" tyres pressure adjustment for the race) so my best is indeed that of mid 48s.

[EF_Neo1st]

I met aliens before and an alien that was able to pull e-sport times on most tracks (from what I saw) and the best time I ever saw at Brands Hatch so far (1:21.4), no hack whatsoever, he was just skill there..

Consider also that more people accumulated a lot of seat time during these years, more people became aliens or faster aliens, so it is now more common to see "these times" at open lobbies, dont mean they are cheaters.
"Maybe" there are cheaters, yes, but what do it change?
Nothing (also only the aliens themselves, with careful examination, would be able to detect some subtle cheat).

I already saw thee teleportation cheats (even this year and more recentlly, within some 2 months ago), it happen, but is not "that wide spread" and I dont care what they do and if they cheat or not, I am not driving for them and I dont care if I win the race or not, I am just doing my own race against mysellf and if I win or not just depend on how I drive ... BUT, BUT, THE CHEATERS!!! Again, I dont care about them and if someone is 2s or more faster than me and win the race, well, congrats, be it a cheater or not, I will only notice a teleportation cheat when it happen as it is crystal clear to anyone.

[rob_every05]

There is not a lot of scope for finding three seconds at monza unless you are doing something most are not, you have a setup that is able to destroy kerbs, which is vital at Monza. Otherwise it has to be either a very good exploit or a very mild cheat,

[nono782]

rob_every05 の投稿を引用：

There is not a lot of scope for finding three seconds at monza unless you are doing something most are not, you have a setup that is able to destroy kerbs, which is vital at Monza. Otherwise it has to be either a very good exploit or a very mild cheat,

They don’t destroy kerbs more than usual.
I was watching a guy doing consistently 1,46 the other day. From what I saw, it’s like the guy had 0 wing in straight lines and max wing in the corners.

[EF_Neo1st]

rob_every05 の投稿を引用：

There is not a lot of scope for finding three seconds at monza unless you are doing something most are not, you have a setup that is able to destroy kerbs, which is vital at Monza. Otherwise it has to be either a very good exploit or a very mild cheat,

Facts:
- I use default safe (it rides kerbs fine ever since 1.6 version of ACC)
- I tested min ride height at the front and rear at the same time and still drove over Monza kerbs about the same as I drive with default safe (seriously considering to drive more wiith it to see the difference I can make out of it).
- driving over kerbs is more "how you attack the kerbs" than "car setup".

[EF_Neo1st]

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rob_every05 の投稿を引用：

There is not a lot of scope for finding three seconds at monza unless you are doing something most are not, you have a setup that is able to destroy kerbs, which is vital at Monza. Otherwise it has to be either a very good exploit or a very mild cheat,

They don’t destroy kerbs more than usual.
I was watching a guy doing consistently 1,46 the other day. From what I saw, it’s like the guy had 0 wing in straight lines and max wing in the corners.

prob he had zero wing "and (prob too) more setup stuff to allow the speed through turns" too (not only his skill, what is also a full requirement anyway).
I know becvause many times at open lobbies I gain like 0.2s to 0.5s on the turns but then I can not catch the guy in front even with slipstream and being 0.1s to 0.2s behind at turn exit, guy finished the straight at Monza some 0.5s to 0.7s ahead of me (so a gain of 0.4s to 0.5s on the straight even with worst turn exit and slipstream).

[Battlefilzer]

OP is appearently cheating/hacking himself, with some kind of stability hack. Connection loss looks different (car would just continue in a straight line through barriers OR dissapear in a blink of an eye). Plus, for this one you dont need to be an Alien to detect lol

https://youtu.be/-kxpZT4NLFk?si=Skbh2rl7_KpqKixX

^ This shows. I'm done lmao

[ANOK]

If you stop focusing on winning races and just learn to enjoy the sport, regardless of outcome, then you'll stop being frustrated and actually enjoy racing, regardless of the outcome. Winning races in public lobbies is an anti-climax anyway, no one but you cares. There's no champagne and no trophies

[shadow82]

nono782 の投稿を引用：

From what I saw, it’s like the guy had 0 wing in straight lines and max wing in the corners.

Lack of basic setup understanding here... Not a single corner requires high downforce on Monza, your grip will mostly be mechanical. Hence you can use minimal wings and still take corner as if you had max wings at Suzuka.

[nono782]

Depends on your car : some may use min wing, others need more wing even if you soften the rear bar and springs.
Especially in the last turn, but not only.

[grizta30]

ANOK の投稿を引用：

If you stop focusing on winning races and just learn to enjoy the sport, regardless of outcome, then you'll stop being frustrated and actually enjoy racing, regardless of the outcome. Winning races in public lobbies is an anti-climax anyway, no one but you cares. There's no champagne and no trophies

This
I've never understood why people get so bent out of shape when people are better at them at something, "must be cheating" "must be using exploits" or maybe they just have more skill than you / have more time to practice.
I mean Jardier posted a video showing and explaining e sports setups so claiming someone is faster because of "setup exploits" just doesn't wash with me.

[Sadist_cain]

Battlefilzer の投稿を引用：

OP is appearently cheating/hacking himself, with some kind of stability hack. Connection loss looks different (car would just continue in a straight line through barriers OR dissapear in a blink of an eye). Plus, for this one you dont need to be an Alien to detect lol

https://youtu.be/-kxpZT4NLFk?si=Skbh2rl7_KpqKixX

^ This shows. I'm done lmao

Oho what ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is this?!

[nono782]

grizta30 の投稿を引用：

ANOK の投稿を引用：

If you stop focusing on winning races and just learn to enjoy the sport, regardless of outcome, then you'll stop being frustrated and actually enjoy racing, regardless of the outcome. Winning races in public lobbies is an anti-climax anyway, no one but you cares. There's no champagne and no trophies

This
I've never understood why people get so bent out of shape when people are better at them at something, "must be cheating" "must be using exploits" or maybe they just have more skill than you / have more time to practice.
I mean Jardier posted a video showing and explaining e sports setups so claiming someone is faster because of "setup exploits" just doesn't wash with me.

I think it’s not a simple « he is better than me » issue.
It’s more how the hell is it possible to make this laptime.

[EF_Neo1st]

nono782 の投稿を引用：

grizta30 の投稿を引用：

This
I've never understood why people get so bent out of shape when people are better at them at something, "must be cheating" "must be using exploits" or maybe they just have more skill than you / have more time to practice.
I mean Jardier posted a video showing and explaining e sports setups so claiming someone is faster because of "setup exploits" just doesn't wash with me.

I think it’s not a simple « he is better than me » issue.
It’s more how the hell is it possible to make this laptime.

Ask a guy that barely driive at 1:39 how I can do 1:34s and 1:33s at Misano (and with default safe)...
It is similar, if you can not understand how "such fast lap times" are possible it is a "he is better than you" issue.

[jellobiafra]

One could also try to keep up with AI step by step.
They don't cheat I guess. ;-)
At 100% they do 1:34-1:35 at Misano.
That should be enough for practice.