need help setuping controller

[KnightX006]

sadly i do not own a wheel right now. So i have to play with a xbox controller.
My issue is, the input is way to sensitive... Like let say i want to over take in a braking zone, if a turn left or right with the controller, im done... Im crashing 100% sure.
Obviously, im starting so, im note used to the game yet but still... Doesn't feel right to me.

Maybe you guys could help me out with some settings for the controller?

[PeteR]

Hi my friend.
Due to a handicap, I only drive with a controller.
Maybe my settings will help you, try it!
Double room 3
60
50
39
2.5
disabled

[PeteR]

Dead Zone 3 not Double room

[Oggmeista]

Join the club, although i have a wheel, just that it doesn't work following the continuous windows updates, but first thing i'd suggest is make the deadzone as small as possible, or even not have 1 at all. As a pad player we are already massively restricted on the amount of steering Range we can access and therefore precision, so making the dead zone as small as possible to me is a priority as is maximising the full range of the controller especially (L-R) horizontal axis.. you need every mm the controller will give you..

here are my settings which i would say , i'm reasonably competitive with considering though try changing a single parameter at a time by 5-10 and see what difference it makes, though the less responsive you make the steering the more you will need to slow in certain corners and wait longer before accelerating, almost to a point where you will be frustartingly slow,, of course inputs being too sensitive are even worse, so try find a compromise you are reasonably happy with

deadzone 0

speed sensitivity 48

steering filter 85

speed steering 45

gamma 1.5

assist enabled

[jellobiafra]

You see, everyone is different, so you have to try it out.
My settings:

deadzone 0

speed sensitivity 20

steering filter 40

speed steering 95

gamma 3.0

assist enabled

[shadow82]

Most important is to limit the rotation within steam big picture first. You never need full lock really, go there and reduce the maximum input for the left stick to about 80-85%. Then you will need to try to setup different in-game profiles for each cars or at least to similar ones in term of behavior/sensitivity, for example the 911 will need a profile very different to the Huracan, but the latter can use the same one as the Honda. I usually have a base I derive from, which is :

Deadzone : nearest to 0 possible (might depend on the health of your controller :) ).
Speed sensitivity : 68
Steering filter : 30
Steering Speed : 40
Gamme : 2.1

No assist, it interferes too much and slow you down, by just activating 20kg of ballast is added to your car.

Whenever you want to adjust things, work with the difference between steering filter and steering speed as this will have the most drastic impact. Note that what matters most is really the delta between the two rather than their numerical values.

Once you're happy tweak the gamma, note that it dictates how much your stick is responsive. 1.0 giving a flat 1:1 input with higher value decreasing the response, allowing for more precise move at the start of the rotation. At max it will be almost as if the stick was a D-pad, with no response initially before jumping to 100% almost immediately (it is quite a good idea to have a rather high value for cars with a strong front end like the R8 Evo II or the 296).

Finally the speed sensitivity to still be able to take Blanchimont flat at Spa. And please use the safe setup to do any controller tweaks... Why ? To make sure the changes you are doing are due to your controller settings and not to the car setup.

Almost clocking in 2000 hours with this approach and can usually stay within a second of aliens in other words competitive with 95% of the playerbase.

[Oggmeista]

Originally posted by shadow82:

Most important is to limit the rotation within steam big picture first. You never need full lock really, go there and reduce the maximum input for the left stick to about 80-85%. Then you will need to try to setup different in-game profiles for each cars or at least to similar ones in term of behavior/sensitivity, for example the 911 will need a profile very different to the Huracan, but the latter can use the same one as the Honda. I usually have a base I derive from, which is :

Deadzone : nearest to 0 possible (might depend on the health of your controller :) ).
Speed sensitivity : 68
Steering filter : 30
Steering Speed : 40
Gamme : 2.1

No assist, it interferes too much and slow you down, by just activating 20kg of ballast is added to your car.

Whenever you want to adjust things, work with the difference between steering filter and steering speed as this will have the most drastic impact. Note that what matters most is really the delta between the two rather than their numerical values.

Once you're happy tweak the gamma, note that it dictates how much your stick is responsive. 1.0 giving a flat 1:1 input with higher value decreasing the response, allowing for more precise move at the start of the rotation. At max it will be almost as if the stick was a D-pad, with no response initially before jumping to 100% almost immediately (it is quite a good idea to have a rather high value for cars with a strong front end like the R8 Evo II or the 296).

Finally the speed sensitivity to still be able to take Blanchimont flat at Spa. And please use the safe setup to do any controller tweaks... Why ? To make sure the changes you are doing are due to your controller settings and not to the car setup.

Almost clocking in 2000 hours with this approach and can usually stay within a second of aliens in other words competitive with 95% of the playerbase.

You are kidding right?, you say you don't need full lock when it's only about what? 1.5 inches and maybe 45 deg of rotation max?, and you say don't even use what you can?, i say ignore your suggestion and maximize 100% rotation with 100% of the controller max axis if you can, it'll help you increase precision which is desperately necessary with a controller..

[PeteR]

Originally posted by jellobiafra:

You see, everyone is different, so you have to try it out.
My settings:

deadzone 0

speed sensitivity 20

steering filter 40

speed steering 95

gamma 3.0

assist enabled

Hi, best ....nice timing ....Porsche 2023 TNX my Friend.

[shadow82]

Originally posted by Oggmeista:

You are kidding right?, you say you don't need full lock when it's only about what? 1.5 inches and maybe 45 deg of rotation max?, and you say don't even use what you can?, i say ignore your suggestion and maximize 100% rotation with 100% of the controller max axis if you can, it'll help you increase precision which is desperately necessary with a controller..

Its is a bit more complex than what you describe. Removing ~15% of your stick reduce oversteer. Oversteer would cause tyre scrubbing. That will in turn slow you down as well as degrade your tires way quicker. It also expand the range of control 0-85% to what would normally be 0-100% on your stick. So yes you lose the final 15% of steering lock, but that is irrelevant you will never steer 100% if you were using a wheel. At the end of the day, it means you increase the precision and not the contrary as each % of your stick now represent .85% of steering, you have it mixed up. :)

[KnightX006]

Thanks a lot, i'll give those a try

[Naindurth]

Originally posted by shadow82:

Most important is to limit the rotation within steam big picture first. You never need full lock really, go there and reduce the maximum input for the left stick to about 80-85%. Then you will need to try to setup different in-game profiles for each cars or at least to similar ones in term of behavior/sensitivity, for example the 911 will need a profile very different to the Huracan, but the latter can use the same one as the Honda. I usually have a base I derive from, which is :

Deadzone : nearest to 0 possible (might depend on the health of your controller :) ).
Speed sensitivity : 68
Steering filter : 30
Steering Speed : 40
Gamme : 2.1

No assist, it interferes too much and slow you down, by just activating 20kg of ballast is added to your car.

Whenever you want to adjust things, work with the difference between steering filter and steering speed as this will have the most drastic impact. Note that what matters most is really the delta between the two rather than their numerical values.

Once you're happy tweak the gamma, note that it dictates how much your stick is responsive. 1.0 giving a flat 1:1 input with higher value decreasing the response, allowing for more precise move at the start of the rotation. At max it will be almost as if the stick was a D-pad, with no response initially before jumping to 100% almost immediately (it is quite a good idea to have a rather high value for cars with a strong front end like the R8 Evo II or the 296).

Finally the speed sensitivity to still be able to take Blanchimont flat at Spa. And please use the safe setup to do any controller tweaks... Why ? To make sure the changes you are doing are due to your controller settings and not to the car setup.

Almost clocking in 2000 hours with this approach and can usually stay within a second of aliens in other words competitive with 95% of the playerbase.

I'm going to try the steam big picture, it makes a lot of sense

btw, which gamepad do you use? I'm on the xbox series x/s
My biggest problem is that my thumb starts to ache, I think could make laps all day if it weren't for that, but I can play an hour tops. I think I grab it too tight

[shadow82]

Originally posted by Naindurth:

btw, which gamepad do you use? I'm on the xbox series x/s

Same, series x/s for the last 18 months, sometime playing full evening without issue. I was using a pro controller prior to that, but all rubers starting to expand and ended up coming off, leaving too much discomfort for the very unnoticable adjsutable sticks benefit. But it might be the solution for you, adjusting stick height might help with cramped hand. I guess I am "average" enough for my hands to be happy with a base controller :)

[Naindurth]

Thanks, I gotta relax then. I'd rather know that if I'm slow it's not because of a controller.
After a lot of car testing, I finally decided to focus on driving the McLaren 720s EVO and right now I'm averaging 2:19 in SPA (peaked 2:18.5) after learning all the braking points and racing line, using no assists.
I'm learning Zaandvort now. Left tyres are too hot, here's hoping it's the setup and not the driver using a gamepad =P

[shadow82]

Originally posted by Naindurth:

I'm learning Zaandvort now. Left tyres are too hot, here's hoping it's the setup and not the driver using a gamepad =P

It's the track, just have a look at the layout :)

[Naindurth]

Originally posted by shadow82:

Originally posted by Naindurth:

I'm learning Zaandvort now. Left tyres are too hot, here's hoping it's the setup and not the driver using a gamepad =P

It's the track, just have a look at the layout :)

I've just tried your setup settings, exactly as you wrote them, including rotation to 80 in steam big picture, and your settings should be the default settings in-game. They feel really good. Thank you. Kunos should know about this.

[shadow82]

Happy to help.

Be mindful that you will still need to adapt if you plan to drive other cars than the macca, for instance this will not work really well with the R8 Evo II or the 296. For those you need to either increase the delta between steering filter and steering speed and/or play with the gamma (increase over 3.0). Remember you can save several profiles, just give them meaningful names and do not forget to use the right one before a race if you switch car.

But if you feel comfortable with "my" settings on the macca it will work for 75% of the cars, remember you can also fine tune in the car settings with the steer ratio. If the car feels too reactive increase the ratio, if too slugish decrease it.