HOW ACC COULD add our MOST WANTED track: nurburgring nordschleife

[XShockedRelicX]

This Track IS used in Real Life for Training and practice before the SRO series. <- basis for the thoughts i provide.

[Edit] Its not for online, strictly for singleplayer, as i said as its used in real life... just like the creatiors said: 'we use it for practice and training, as do competitors'
Im not buying a game thats not ACC, its my go to sim, pleass lets stick on topic, you can discuss FFB and cars you like somewhere else, im trying to find a good argumet as to how and why this track should be added, and im saying single player, practice/hotlaps just so many people who want to test themselfs on the most challenging track can have the chance, the less skilled need not apply.


For practice/training like it is in real life, as ACC said, its because its not in the cups currently, and that teams and the ACC team use it for training/practice so should we, and it keeps with their code of sticking to the reality of GT racing, without infringing on any issues already addressed, and i spent the last 2 weeks 2hr a day reading and watching videos of the creators and researching this problem, and it is a problem, because so much of their skilled player base and racing lovers so badly wish to have this map. as to why we cant have the nurburgring nordschleife, they can please a large userbase and money with my suggestion; the users of the sim and the people who want to play this sim and test themselves to the absolute max allowed by technology. And for this sim with its advancments not to have this track, even if its for training/practicing as in real life, is a head scracher, but because it doesn't have nurburgring nordschleife, many may think twice, i did at first.
we can appease everyone by adding the track in this way, and not step on any contracts/licences, if one SRO team uses this track for practice/training, then by default it leaves the door open to allow this track within this great sim.

please can we lobby for the map in this way?

[MadMan]

The nordschleife will not be added to ACC, since the GT World Challenge, hosted by SRO, does not race there. Also, official tests are held at Paul Ricard before the season starts. Only because some teams also run in the Nürburgring Langstrecken Serie, does not mean, that the track is added. With that logic, we also should get Nascar because of KCMG, Le Mans and GTE cars because of AF Corsa and so on.

[Hoksu]

Old AC has Nordschleife but no one races it.

[turtleCZ]

Publicado originalmente por Hoksu:

Old AC has Nordschleife but no one races it.

Strange, it's my most played track in AC.

[EF_Neo1st]

Publicado originalmente por XShockedRelicX:

if its for practice/training like it is in real life, as ACC said, its because its not in the cups currently, and that teams and the ACC team use it for training/practice so should we, and it keeps with their code of sticking to the reality of GT racing, withing infringing on any issues already addressed as to why we cant have the nurburgring nordschleife pleasing the users of the sim and the people who want to play this sim but because it doesn't have nurburgring nordschleife they may think twice.
we can appease everyone by adding the track in this way. please can we lobby for the map in this way?

50% or more of people already can not make it through Monza T1 and Eau, much less Bathrust uphill or downhill so ...
What would you expect from Nurb Nords (in case MadMan is wrong)

Publicado originalmente por MadMan:

The nordschleife will not be added to ACC, since the GT World Challenge, hosted by SRO, does not race there. Also, official tests are held at Paul Ricard before the season starts. Only because some teams also run in the Nürburgring Langstrecken Serie, does not mean, that the track is added. With that logic, we also should get Nascar because of KCMG, Le Mans and GTE cars because of AF Corsa and so on.

???

These drivers would not make it through the first few turns..

[r33fermadness]

Even if they did add it, it wouldn't be as good as the one in rf2. Not just the physics but the bad shadow popping in the trees acc has. Play rf2, be happy.

[Bexx]

Automobilista 2 has a good version too, really good gfx and details and has some gt3 cars. I don't find the physics and ffb that good in AM2 though, but it's not bad and still improoving by the devs.
Would love to drive it in ACC but will possibly never happen.

[r33fermadness]

Publicado originalmente por Bexx:

Automobilista 2 has a good version too, really good gfx and details and has some gt3 cars. I don't find the physics and ffb that good in AM2 though, but it's not bad and still improoving by the devs.
Would love to drive it in ACC but will possibly never happen.

Yeah, ams2 handles weird. I like the Brazil stock cars though. Would be worth booting it up to run them on Nords.

[EF_Neo1st]

I actually dont really enjoy the weaker FFB of ACC and what I learn at AMS2 helps me improve at ACC too so .. if one is wrong and dont handle well so does the other (but again, FFB is subjective and maybe it changes from hardware to hardware too).

On my G29 at ACC I have very weak weight transfer and now no wheels lock feeling under heavy braking (what before a certain ACC update it was weak but was there), while at AMS2 I have both strong along with grip levels and road details more than enough to tell me exactly what are the car reactions on the fly (I actually find it easier to improve at AMS2 faster then go at ACC to just take the improvement at braking, turning and returm to throttle, also racing line).

[r33fermadness]

Publicado originalmente por EF_Neo1st:

I actually dont really enjoy the weaker FFB of ACC and what I learn at AMS2 helps me improve at ACC too so .. if one is wrong and dont handle well so does the other (but again, FFB is subjective and maybe it changes from hardware to hardware too).

On my G29 at ACC I have very weak weight transfer and now no wheels lock feeling under heavy braking (what before a certain ACC update it was weak but was there), while at AMS2 I have both strong along with grip levels and road details more than enough to tell me exactly what are the car reactions on the fly (I actually find it easier to improve at AMS2 faster then go at ACC to just take the improvement at braking, turning and returm to throttle, also racing line).

I think you improve faster on ams2 because it's an easier game over all. Things i get away with in ams2 I would never get away with in rf2 or acc. Maybe things have changed after their updates but last time I played, it was way too easy.

[EF_Neo1st]

Publicado originalmente por r33fermadness:

Publicado originalmente por EF_Neo1st:

I actually dont really enjoy the weaker FFB of ACC and what I learn at AMS2 helps me improve at ACC too so .. if one is wrong and dont handle well so does the other (but again, FFB is subjective and maybe it changes from hardware to hardware too).

On my G29 at ACC I have very weak weight transfer and now no wheels lock feeling under heavy braking (what before a certain ACC update it was weak but was there), while at AMS2 I have both strong along with grip levels and road details more than enough to tell me exactly what are the car reactions on the fly (I actually find it easier to improve at AMS2 faster then go at ACC to just take the improvement at braking, turning and returm to throttle, also racing line).

I think you improve faster on ams2 because it's an easier game over all. Things i get away with in ams2 I would never get away with in rf2 or acc. Maybe things have changed after their updates but last time I played, it was way too easy.

And then explain why my improvement there carry over to both ACC and rF2 if it is meant to be "easier".
It only gives me a better feeling to understamd better the car reactions on the fly instead of guessing part of it or it entirely, like with wheels locking.

And in fact I find it easier to screw at AMS2 when forcing beyond the limits, but also because of different default setups where at ACC even aggressive setups are not as aggressive as the defaults at AMS2.

[r33fermadness]

Just subjective stuff. I have ams2 installed still and sometimes fire it up.

[XShockedRelicX]

Its not for online, strictly for singleplayer, as i said as its used in real life... just like the creatiors said: we use it for practice and training, as do competitors

[XShockedRelicX]

Im not buying a game thats not ACC, its my go to sim, pleass lets stick on topic, you can discuss FFB and cars you like somewhere else, im trying to find a good argumet as to how and why this track should be added, and im saying single player, practice/hotlaps just so many people who want to test themselfs on the most challenging track can have the chance, the less skilled need not apply.

[EF_Neo1st]

Publicado originalmente por XShockedRelicX:

Im not buying a game thats not ACC, its my go to sim, pleass lets stick on topic, you can discuss FFB and cars you like somewhere else, im trying to find a good argumet as to how and why this track should be added, and im saying single player, practice/hotlaps just so many people who want to test themselfs on the most challenging track can have the chance, the less skilled need not apply.

It have to do with license and prob Kunos have the licence cheaper for all the SRO content they have at ACC but can not go against it "or else"....

[XShockedRelicX]

I would agree, but thats not the issue according to the creators (in the case of this track, and in this edge case), otherwise id agree with your comment.