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No, as far as I remember vast majority of public servers allow for all assists, including racing line.
I dont see reason for you to care about if you dont use it yourself.
Yes, it would "make everyone under the same rules you use for yourself" but in the end using the line is more a "lack of skill and understanding" ... what makes me ask (out of curiosity) what track and what lap time the first place was doing?
Maybe he himself dont really care or even use the line and leave it for everyone else to use.
In the end, using the racing line do more bad than good as with racing line on you dont really learn the track (so in that regard you should care more about if you use it or not).
Btw ... GT3 cars dont have h-shifters and you dont need to rev match anything either.
that said, i think racing line can give a very big advantage in night races. i tried to use it once in a lobby but i found out it was not allowed, lol.
in my league i dont know what assists are allowed because ive never tried one. i know that tire wear, fuel usage, damage are realistic, but i can't tell for autoshifting or racing line cause i never tried those.
@ OP, how do you know line is allowed in your league? you tried to race with it and it worked? it was on the rules?
what other assists are allowed and how do you know them?
PS: ACC public server browser is meh. lacks this kind of info and more important: doesn't allow players to store ttheir favorite servers. so annoying every time you find a good lobby or want to join your league server, you have to type the name (if you remember it, in case of lobbies) and search...
PS2: i remember DICE's battlelog in BF3, criticized so much in the beggining, but then every one asked for it in next BF releases...
i wish i could have something similar in every MP game
Also you can notice if people are using racing line by how they drive (once they "leave" the line many usualy do the "sudden turn" or "reduce a lot" to get back to the line instead of just doing a different line, part of the race insidents you can notice are also because of this, you are by the side or see someone side by side and suddenly someone do a "sudden turn" to get into the lind (regardless of there being someone there already or not).
People for sure use the racing line from the behaviors I noticed (and from when I tested it) but what people dont often use is virtual mirror, radar and distance spotter or their position on the track, or else they would not "just go for the racing line regardless of there being someone already there" and would not say "you left me no room" when that was like 75% of the track for the guy and you (or the other driver you saw being threw offtrack) was almost offtrack but because the racing line goes there the other "felt like there was no room" (in short, the guy there dont even know how the hell he should do "out of the racing line" and considered he had no room left because he did not have room "on the racing line"), also with racing line on you can notice why so many start braking so much earlier (usually the racing line start turning red way too early and you see people hardbraking there), that is another indication someone is using racing line and not driving trying to follow others or trying to learn the track on their own (can be that this driver also learned the track with racing line and now is not using, still carried the "braking points" and "line" from the racing line and dont know how to deal out of these "boundaries" created by the racing line).
Without the racing line eventually you will do mistakes and will start learning how to drive out of the racing line, when trying to defend or overtake or even when you just miss your braking point or start sliding/spinning, you learn better how to deal with these situations if you dont use the racing line and many that dont know what "out of the racing line" mean also dont know how to overtake or defend out of it either, what you usually see is someone divebombing and going offtrack (or collecting someone else or you) or someone braking so early he just handle the position when trying to overtake, or you see someone driving on the racing line without any concern for if there is someone already there, because in his mind "the racing line is what rules and if he is already there the other driver HAVE TO leave and he dont have to leave a space as he is already by the line, even if it is a "side by side" situation and if he is behind he will do the line and if he is behind he brake regardless of how the driver in front do, often resulting in puncting offtrack or pitmaneuvering, what also I see often happening in servers and all that "acting regardless of how the other driver is doing and where the other driver is at the track" I also see as "learning to race against AI", where AI is always very passive and dont really fight for position or defend it well and if you go at the line and side by side often the AI just hand the position and if you are at the line the AI will not try to attack you less if you do any mistake off the racing line (and so it seem, by comments I already saw at race, such as "learn the racing line, I was already there" or "racing line was mine, I dont have to leave" or "where did you learn how to drive? you dont put on the inside" or "turn your racing line", that people think that is how it should be, that "placing another car side by side and fighting for position entering/through/exiting the turn side by side is wrong).
Some act dumb to sound smart or to be smartasses and some just dont even know how to brake deeper and "think anyone that brake deeper" (or they just use it as excuse) and put by their side is "divebombing" when it is not the other guy fault he start braking 15m or even some 30m to 50m earlier (and more than often you see someone being overtaken without being touched go and divebomb on the next turn, I saw that a lot and it happened to me too, to just go, overtake without touching the guy and then the guy divebomb and say "there you deserve it for divebombing me" what is a complete troll and sore looser move, I saw it happening a lot and it already happened some times, like once every 8 to 12 races, and also reason why sometimes I prefer to drive behind someone 2s or more slower than me than risking overtake and being destroyed on the folowing turn without doing anything wrong other than just overtaking someone . . . some even come to say that I was divebombing by just driving some 0.2s to 0.5s behind them and they parked their car in front of me at the middle of a straight or on turn exit just to cause a collision and then laugh and say that I deserved that for "non-stop divebombing" when I was just holding myself close and avoiding overtake exactly to dont have a smartass move threw on me, but that "braketesting then laughting at me . . . or getting furious after his braketest gone wrong and he got destroyed and I could hold my car in place" is a lot more rare but already happened to me twice on these many races but I already saw happening to others too and not so rare, it just is rare to me to be braketested and "kill the other guy" as I also more than often go offtrack to avoid the collision . . where I also think some do this on purpose to force the driver behind to go offtrack).
Sure, all that considering it is not just the guys that want to see the world burn and destroy whoever it is or as many as they can.
I saw the line in his Twitch playback. It's all good. With me being one of the slowest of the group, I was just wondering about leveling the playing field. I could understand if it was the other way around. But I usually finished last or no where near the front. Usually blue flagged during our 45 min stints. I just like to race and feel the simulation. Although I've gotten better over the last 8 years of sim racing, I've never been that quick and am happy to simulate the racing experience from the back of the pack. Especially if there's company. =D
Thank you both for taking the time to respond.
I don't recall the time. But I think the track of reference was Silverstone or Paul Ricard.
It is only "guessing" but those that are fast enough to do times around 4% off of the best times or better dont really need to use racing line, from 4% to 8% that is some chance of it being used (but "I believe" the better the player get the less this player will feel need for using the racing line) but beyond 8% from the best times I think it is widely used.
Keep your driving and dont mind about the others, if you want to practice without any assist, including without racing line, you are on a good path to learn better how to feel the tracks and improve on your own instead of just following the car in front or following a line.
That are also some guys that can be fast when following someone but if they overtake or are left alone on the track (be it because the guy in front made a mistake or gone to pits) they start to lose pace by like 1s or even 2s or more sometimes, because they dont really know the track they just know how to follow someone on the track.
That is also true that some guys dont know how to follow others and do mistakes because off it, or try to follow someone 2s or more faster than their best time and they either miss braking point or can not hold the car steady through the turn and go offtrack because of loss of car control through or exiting the turn.
In the end, everything can be valid practice but racing line can be addicting and hold your progress as even if a driver know how to pay attention to some braking points and reference points even when using the racing line, his eyes will always be following the racing line and if it is not there chances are this driver will get lost.
I know because when I started at ACC I was using racing line most of the time, at ACC I used racing line for like 2 months and whenever I turned off the racing line my pace dropped like 1.5s to 2.5s, sometimes even worst than that depending on the track, and also I can tell that I did not knew how to drive outside of the racing line, so it is easy for me to recognize the same mistakes when others do it in front of me or around me, I know their mistakes are the mistakes of someone that dont know how to drive outside of the racing line because I had experience with it before ACC and experience with it for at least 2 months before I started dropping off the racing line (and also from this experience I tell you, it was rare to find a server where I was not able to drive with racing line, almost always I was able to drive with racing line and I believe it stay the same, also by how I notice from time to time other drivers racing online).
However, races that run at night are a different story. Those types of aids can be a huge benefit for where a car's headlight projection doesn't light up the road well. However, even without that, a user can just boost the contrast on their monitor and turn it near daytime.
In short, don't worry about what others area doing. This is a 'game' at the end of the day. If you know someone is using 'aids', use it as motivation to beat them (in a fair way).
with 1:52" in ricard he wouldn't need any racing line. racing line would need him... :p
thats a tortellinii time, neo
i like you (no ho.mo)
@mahjik: how can you being always right? are you a real human or a bot? :p
About 1:52 at Paul Ricard . . . well, I considered 1:52s because I already saw some guys doing 1:53s and as the best times are low 1:52 it is possible to find some alien doing at least some laps at 1:52.
But yes, like I said, I dont believe any of these guys that drive at 4% or under actually need any racing line and usually the racing line work more as a nuisance getting in the way even of noticing certain reference pr braking points or just diverting attention.
Maybe, like Mahjik said, during night races it can be of some help but someone can also rise brightness too.
One of these days, this week, I was racing at Brands and because of the sun going down I started losing sight of where the track boundary was (and gone offtrack twice because of stepping on grass by overdoing with kerbs limits because I was not being able to see the limits and "trusted too much my instincts").
Crap happen, I try to learn and move on . . .
Maybe one day I try to practice with time close to that with x1 time and practice more for when this type of condition (that I am not so used) happen.