Why get penalty if other people crash into me?

[CSL-Drive]

So I was on the grid, I have to wait for the car in front to move before I can move. the driver behind me starts crashing into me.

We both receive a penalty. No matter who is at blame. How come?

[Marty]

Because its not always easy to find blame, in this condition possibly it could be but I am not a coder. The system works by calculating how much contact you have in close quarters racing, if you rarely hit anyone and get the odd hit from others its no big deal. The guy hitting you will have a much lower rating if he does it regularly compared to you. If you hit lots of people then its those contacts you need to try reduce as there is nothing you can do about others beyond picking cleaner servers.

To get anything from the system you want as strict a server entry as you can find or get into. This will keep those that regularly hit others out and give you cleaner racing.

If your not using restricted SA servers you can ignore the SA rating as it wont do anything for you in open servers. In cleaner servers people will be much more competant in traffic, you dont have to be very fast just very clean.

Sadly more people worry about getting the highest possible SA number, but rarely care what the server restriction is. You should focus more on that and just ensure your rating is high enough to get into these servers. Even SA50 is not going to be perfect racing it will mostly clear out wreckers but shoukd be a bit better then fully open.

[Deckard]

Originally posted by Marty:

Because its not always easy to find blame, in this condition possibly it could be but I am not a coder. The system works by calculating how much contact you have in close quarters racing, if you rarely hit anyone and get the odd hit from others its no big deal. The guy hitting you will have a much lower rating if he does it regularly compared to you. If you hit lots of people then its those contacts you need to try reduce as there is nothing you can do about others beyond picking cleaner servers.

To get anything from the system you want as strict a server entry as you can find or get into. This will keep those that regularly hit others out and give you cleaner racing.

If your not using restricted SA servers you can ignore the SA rating as it wont do anything for you in open servers. In cleaner servers people will be much more competant in traffic, you dont have to be very fast just very clean.

Sadly more people worry about getting the highest possible SA number, but rarely care what the server restriction is. You should focus more on that and just ensure your rating is high enough to get into these servers. Even SA50 is not going to be perfect racing it will mostly clear out wreckers but shoukd be a bit better then fully open.

In single player the same happens. No matter who hits me or how both cars are always penalised. Not sure how this works. Particularly annoying as the AI has a habit of swerving into you unexpectedly on straights when you're perfectly entitled to hold your line.

[BRT Cobra]

cause kunos can't code for ♥♥♥♥

[manuelr]

Because Kunos is lazy..it is not so difficult to fine tune the system so that can detect who crashes into from behind...ex car A is forward than B...

[d-^^eathstare>]

Originally posted by manuelr:

Because Kunos is lazy..it is not so difficult to fine tune the system so that can detect who crashes into from behind...ex car A is forward than B...

and who's at fault when somebody blocks the racing line on purpose?

[bienlo55]

Some people want to pass and are impatient. Then they crash others from behind.

I let them pass, if I want to keep my SA rating high, but my RC goes down.

This is not COMPETIZIONE and it is sad.

[D. Jankovic]

https://youtu.be/xRUS4UJ56E4

Here is a video of a developer witch explains some stuff and mentiones 1 point penality for both cars on colision. Video is on German but pretty decent and understandable subtitles and pictures in video are english :)

[シェービングフォーム]

Because like every other rating system, it's backwards.

[Old_Fart]

Originally posted by manuelr:

Because Kunos is lazy..it is not so difficult to fine tune the system so that can detect who crashes into from behind...ex car A is forward than B...

Did you ram me or did I brake test you, that's where the difficulty is in apportioning blame.

[Deslug]

Originally posted by Old_Fart:

Originally posted by manuelr:

Because Kunos is lazy..it is not so difficult to fine tune the system so that can detect who crashes into from behind...ex car A is forward than B...

Did you ram me or did I brake test you, that's where the difficulty is in apportioning blame.

yeah so lets punish both of them then.that seems fair

[danosdirectos]

It will only be a punishment for regular crash participants. Clean drivers will see it washed away by the flood of trust points that continue. For less skilled, dirty or borderline drivers this won't be the case. Simple and elegant. If it seems a punishment to you then it should be.

[bienlo55]

But the problem is not the rating system.

The problem are the very aggressive drivers who crash in from behind or the idiots who park their car in the middle of the track.

This is the sad part of the game.