bad reviews because no network features?

[MR.hyde]

is that the only reason for bad reviews? what could u do on ps4 with network features? is it gamebreaking or is it only "bad review worthy" bc the devs lied?

[Multihog]

People don't complain because of the actual features; they complain out of principle, and the reason for that is because the developers didn't announce beforehand that said features are going to be cut. Hence, people feel betrayed when the title of the game promises "Complete", which implies that everything ever released, both base and DLC content is included, and it's actually not what they receive.

I'm of the opinion that the controversy and uproar is disproportionate to how big of an impact the absence of these features is going to have on most people's enjoyment of the game. Then again, I tend to look at concrete effects rather than base my views and opinions on principles.

Especially damaging is that a lot of people who would enjoy this game are probably turned off by the review-bombed Mixed rating in the store because they think the game is actually not good, which it is.

The bottom line is that people basically abused the review system to attack the company itself instead of reviewing their game. A significant part of those reviews don't have anything to do with reviewing the game.

[Big Boss]

You could customize your base, create and play on user made maps, have user made pirate crews help/attack during item world. Other players would have senators show up in your dark assembly to vote and would get the items you bribed them with. All pretty cool stuff. I'm sure Im missing something or other.

[KuroOneHalf]

You can still customize your base. I just got to chapter 7 and you unlock that feature there. I guess the cut feature was about sharing your base layout with friends? Either way, this feature is totally unnecessary and will have zero impact on the play experience. Everyone's throwing a hissy fit over a non problem.

[Clarity]

Originally posted by Kuroonehalf:

You can still customize your base. I just got to chapter 7 and you unlock that feature there. I guess the cut feature was about sharing your base layout with friends? Either way, this feature is totally unnecessary and will have zero impact on the play experience. Everyone's throwing a hissy fit over a non problem.

Yeah it's no problem to be deceived by the company, none at all. Also, zero impact? Custom made maps made things a lot easier in terms of farming.

[Clarity]

Not to mention this game is still billed as "complete" when they've actually removed features. Pretty sure their definition of "complete" isn't quite accurate. Also playing on other peoples maps and sending your pirates to their worlds is a pretty cool feature, and it adds to the game and mixes it up quite a bit. just because you like the game with cut content doesn't mean we can't voice our negative opinion about the game.

[iHaku]

we already have a thread like this on the frontpage of this forum.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/803600/discussions/0/1733216893887977445/

its in essence the same exact thing.

[GeminiEclipse]

They knew from the start the game wasn't going to be complete. So they named it complete.

Look at the other games. Disgaea 1 and 2 are just named PC even though they are actually complete.

This was at its core level a bait and switch tactic that companies use to mislead customers, instead of just being honest and upfront. I hate corporate bs.

[Izziee]

Originally posted by MR.hyde:

is that the only reason for bad reviews? what could u do on ps4 with network features? is it gamebreaking or is it only "bad review worthy" bc the devs lied?

I was thinking about making a similar topic, but I didn't. So I'll use yours and copy what I had written.

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I am not sticking up for NIS here, what they did was shady at best but I had disgaea 5 on Ps4 and to be honest, I loved the base game but there was so much DLC that I lost interest. The "complete" version on the PC is great to get all the content in one easy bundle.

So they missed out a few network things, again, I'm not going to praise them for that, it's a poor move, but here's the thing...

At least PC got the game! So many publishers these days lose interest in localising games for the west, or porting them over or whatever because of backlash. It doesn't help us as gamers. It just doesn't.

We've got a few Japanese developers that don't want to bring over their titles because of the whiney SJW's who get offended by skimpy armour. We got publishers like EA, Bethesda and Activision putting stuff on their own platforms to not have to deal with the whiny steam community. Same for Ubisoft though they still currently use steam.

If someone doesn't like the game, absolutely fair enough, negative away...but those of you who are "fans" (apparently) see it a good idea to push the very thing you're a fan of away.

For a third time, it was a bad move of NIS, but is the title that gives hundreds of hours of content really deserving of so many negative reviews?

[Yakuza0]

i doubt they would even make disgaea 6 because of these noobs stpid reasons that killed this game

[Tanasinn [AZ]]

Yeah man just blindly follow whatever the company tell you... good kitty. Don't ask questions and don't hold the company any standards.

[TheDude]

Ive said in previous comments how awful these people are treating and slandering NISA. Every negative review has nothing to do with the game itself and is solely dedicated to how their feelings were hurt becuase NISA said this and that and didnt include a thing that really has little relevance to the game or franchise. Further more every single one of the negative reviewers suddenly forgot that software updates are a thing.

@Some taters - you say we should hold a company to a standard. We do. This IS the standard. EVERY software company behaves this way or worse. There are balance issues to address, features missing, features broken, ect. Day one patches anyone? I havent seen a game released that did not have a software update that came with it the DAY OF launch.

Whatever standard you are talking about is a thing of fantasy and you are more likely to witness a unicorn ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ a donkey than see whatever standard you are expecting.

[TheDude]

With all that said, i would like to point out that if you really feel that this was a good game, Write a short review, mention a thing or two you liked and give it a up vote. you can easily drown out the trolls.

[Detrian]

"Because they lied" mixed a healthy dose of whining for the sake of whining. People in negative reviews are outright lying about how things unfolded now, claiming the devs waited a day to reveal the content wasn't there and the like. They like to pretend the "Complete" moniker means anything outside including all the DLC, everyone conveniently "forgets" how the Switch version's online modes were neutered too (you can't search for maps) and how the launch discount meant that even with the "lies", everyone affected by the lack of communication paid ten dollars less than they would have had buying any other version.

It's a perfect example of people so desperate to be "savvy" customers and fight back against the MAN that they are making up excuses to do it.

[iHaku]

Originally posted by Yakuza0:

i doubt they would even make disgaea 6 because of these noobs stpid reasons that killed this game

disgaea 6 is already in the making, they confirmed that. PC is not even the target platform. If anything we might not get a pc port, but i'd imagine sale numbers speak in favor of D5 compared to the development cost. Im also sure that they absolutely know that the way nisa handlet the steam release was the main reason why so many negative reviews are on the platform.

[Tanasinn [AZ]]

Originally posted by TheDude:

Ive said in previous comments how awful these people are treating and slandering NISA. Every negative review has nothing to do with the game itself and is solely dedicated to how their feelings were hurt becuase NISA said this and that and didnt include a thing that really has little relevance to the game or franchise. Further more every single one of the negative reviewers suddenly forgot that software updates are a thing.

@Some taters - you say we should hold a company to a standard. We do. This IS the standard. EVERY software company behaves this way or worse. There are balance issues to address, features missing, features broken, ect. Day one patches anyone? I havent seen a game released that did not have a software update that came with it the DAY OF launch.

Whatever standard you are talking about is a thing of fantasy and you are more likely to witness a unicorn ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ a donkey than see whatever standard you are expecting.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this is what the standard is for ports? I almost feel sorry for you. If the devs don't provide a quality product, or if they do anything shady (like wait until after release to break the news - which they did) then I don't buy it. If you want to be a fan boy, great, but don't think that releases like this are an acceptable standard.