PSA: Don't upgrade Innocent Aid Squad past level 7 for breeding efficiency

[mimsybutt]

This appears to be the only thing you can mess up in the game. Past level 8, the born innocent value isn't multiplied like when it is normally subdued, when it would be subdued in the item world on the innocent boost path, and when sudued by a member from the Hunter Squad.

This might be more useful early game when innocent levels are low. Around post game, the improved breeding rate might be useful.

[Customer ******* Stole My Money!]

Do Not Upgrade Innocent Aid Squad Passed Level Seven For Breeding Efficiency.

[ShinkuTear]

It's still fine to take to level 8 and 9, it's just different in how it works. 7 is best if you want to manually subdue, 9 is best if you don't want to, such as trying to grow innocents while running the Trials.

[Nineball H1]

While the hunting squad is certainly faster, once you've got your maxed statistician, the innocent aid squad is a really good passive way to get more innocents and max out others while doing other things.

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by ShinkuTear:

It's still fine to take to level 8 and 9, it's just different in how it works. 7 is best if you want to manually subdue, 9 is best if you don't want to, such as trying to grow innocents while running the Trials.

This. It's all about how often you want to go into the itemworld in the end.

[Van Rhizeen]

Originally posted by Nineball H1:

While the hunting squad is certainly faster, once you've got your maxed statistician, the innocent aid squad is a really good passive way to get more innocents and max out others while doing other things.

And is not that hard to find good unSubdued innocents if you take some time to look into your bag.

[mimsybutt]

The lower squad level is probably more useful with low level innocents early on. Born innocents can be subdued to 8x their value at squad level 7. One could consider maxing innocent aid squad after having high innocent levels as born innocent levels are dependant on parent innocent levels C=(A+B)/10. I haven't reached post game yet but I do prefer manually subduing as it is currently easier to find unsubdued innocents in the item world than waiting for innocents to breed.

[KuroOneHalf]

Originally posted by Perogy Boy:

Do Not Upgrade Innocent Aid Squad Passed Level Seven For Breeding Efficiency.

Did you try to correct him with a typo? lol

"Past" is the correct term.

[Vosu]

You care about mundane things, dood. Either way you're grinding, so time passes and innocents grow either way. You don't have to care about innocents if you're not post-game.

[AzKat 🐔]

I already maxed it out... rip me

[Avatar Marxon]

Hi guys,

Just a little question about your squad...

Does level squad are reset in new game + ? Because it's the first time i play and i didn't know that I don't need to upgrade the Innocent Aid Squad above 7...

My save is doomed ? Or there still are a little hope ?

Thanks :)

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Originally posted by Avatar Marxon:

Hi guys,

Just a little question about your squad...

Does level squad are reset in new game + ? Because it's the first time i play and i didn't know that I don't need to upgrade the Innocent Aid Squad above 7...

My save is doomed ? Or there still are a little hope ?

Thanks :)

Geez, your save is not doomed no matter what. Now it just means you don't need to use the hunter squad to get more subdued innocents. You'll be duping plenty of items during your item world runs, and that's the real way to get higher level innocents anyway.

[Avatar Marxon]

Originally posted by KarmaTheAlligator:

Geez, your save is not doomed no matter what. Now it just means you don't need to use the hunter squad to get more subdued innocents. You'll be duping plenty of items during your item world runs, and that's the real way to get higher level innocents anyway.

Yeah yeah, it's just... we loose a big boost in early game, and i think it's too bad... Also, the guide on Steam is pretty useful, but... something bothering me...

Does 80 Statistician gives 80% boost XP ? It's capped at 900 by item, that right ?
If yes, then what is the point of having 50.000 statistician if it's capped to 900 ?

Thank you in advance :)

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by Avatar Marxon:

Originally posted by KarmaTheAlligator:

Geez, your save is not doomed no matter what. Now it just means you don't need to use the hunter squad to get more subdued innocents. You'll be duping plenty of items during your item world runs, and that's the real way to get higher level innocents anyway.

Yeah yeah, it's just... we loose a big boost in early game, and i think it's too bad... Also, the guide on Steam is pretty useful, but... something bothering me...

Does 80 Statistician gives 80% boost XP ? It's capped at 900 by item, that right ?
If yes, then what is the point of having 50.000 statistician if it's capped to 900 ?

Thank you in advance :)

Yes, 80 statistician give 80% more exp.Statistician max cap is in fact 900, not 50k like combat stats. It's also the max a character can benefit from, as having multiple stacks of 900 statisticians will not boost further your exp.

If I recall correctly, the only NON-stat innocent that stacks after cap is the manager one, but that's due to a bug in the code which causes it to cap at 300 instead of 1900.

Also, really, don't freak over the "loss" of going past level 7 of the breeding squad. Once you reach the point in which you want to upgrade items or runs maaaany floors of the IW, the last thing you want to do is to go hunting for innocents, when you can instead let them breed an fuse them afterwads.

[Avatar Marxon]

Originally posted by きょすけ:

Yes, 80 statistician give 80% more exp.Statistician max cap is in fact 900, not 50k like combat stats. It's also the max a character can benefit from, as having multiple stacks of 900 statisticians will not boost further your exp.

If I recall correctly, the only NON-stat innocent that stacks after cap is the manager one, but that's due to a bug in the code which causes it to cap at 300 instead of 1900.

Also, really, don't freak over the "loss" of going past level 7 of the breeding squad. Once you reach the point in which you want to upgrade items or runs maaaany floors of the IW, the last thing you want to do is to go hunting for innocents, when you can instead let them breed an fuse them afterwads.

Thank you very much for that, but... you say that 900% boost is the best that one character can have, and in other side, this dood say something else (in the innocent guide comment's):

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By @TheDude

There is some incorrect information in this guide. I should say its misinformation because its incorrect elsewhere too... Statisticians, Mentors, Instructors, brokers, and Managers Each of these are limited not by character but by item its attached to. You can have up to 5 statisticians on a character and their bonuses do stack. HOWEVER you CANNOT put them all on your rare baal sword for example. You can put ONLY one on the Baal sword, one on your raised flag, one on your hercules armor, one on your trap, and one on your barefoot x. this applies to all the innocents i listed with one exception. The intstructor. The instructor will only add its bonus to the weapon its on. The other instructors will add their bonus to your Armor master gain. Last but not least the Mentors only work for skills you ALREADY KNOW not skills you inherited from the Training squad. Once you have learned the skill from the training squad will you get the bonuses from mentors.
==

Who say the true ? x)

[きょすけ]

Originally posted by Avatar Marxon:

Originally posted by きょすけ:

Yes, 80 statistician give 80% more exp.Statistician max cap is in fact 900, not 50k like combat stats. It's also the max a character can benefit from, as having multiple stacks of 900 statisticians will not boost further your exp.

If I recall correctly, the only NON-stat innocent that stacks after cap is the manager one, but that's due to a bug in the code which causes it to cap at 300 instead of 1900.

Also, really, don't freak over the "loss" of going past level 7 of the breeding squad. Once you reach the point in which you want to upgrade items or runs maaaany floors of the IW, the last thing you want to do is to go hunting for innocents, when you can instead let them breed an fuse them afterwads.

Thank you very much for that, but... you say that 900% boost is the best that one character can have, and in other side, this dood say something else (in the innocent guide comment's):

==
By @TheDude

There is some incorrect information in this guide. I should say its misinformation because its incorrect elsewhere too... Statisticians, Mentors, Instructors, brokers, and Managers Each of these are limited not by character but by item its attached to. You can have up to 5 statisticians on a character and their bonuses do stack. HOWEVER you CANNOT put them all on your rare baal sword for example. You can put ONLY one on the Baal sword, one on your raised flag, one on your hercules armor, one on your trap, and one on your barefoot x. this applies to all the innocents i listed with one exception. The intstructor. The instructor will only add its bonus to the weapon its on. The other instructors will add their bonus to your Armor master gain. Last but not least the Mentors only work for skills you ALREADY KNOW not skills you inherited from the Training squad. Once you have learned the skill from the training squad will you get the bonuses from mentors.
==

Who say the true ? x)

From what I gathered all these years by playing disgaea 2 (and now disgaea 5) along info I searched constantly for, I always got to know that multiple stacks of statistician after 900 never worked.
Should I be wrong I apologize, but I fail to understand why innocents should work if you stack them through different pieces of equipment but not when inside the same one.