Is 30C too hot?

[berkyjay]

I kind of ignored the climate readings for a while and just noticed that the global temp was 30C, which has to be way too hot. Is this an issue and is there a way to lower the temp?

[SteelHeart]

I beat the game with temps about 40*C, I think. Might have been high thirties but I can tell you that the only thing the game cares about are temps above zero and the right % of various gasses.

My mars was about 1.5 atmosphere and would definitely have been a hothouse, but I've read about someone winning with 5 times that.

[berkyjay]

Originally posted by SteelHeart:

I beat the game with temps about 40*C, I think. Might have been high thirties but I can tell you that the only thing the game cares about are temps above zero and the right % of various gasses.

My mars was about 1.5 atmosphere and would definitely have been a hothouse, but I've read about someone winning with 5 times that.

Ah OK thanks. It's kind of disappointing, but it's indicative of the game as a whole. It's put together really well, but it's currently half the game it should be.

[FalseMyrmidon]

Had to convert it to freedom units, that's only 86F. There are plenty of places people live on Earth that are hotter, including places that people lived before the invention of AC.

[mreed2]

Actually, you can win the game with average temperatures below zero C. You'll need to raise the temperature above 0 C to advance to stage 3 terraforming, but none of the stages after that check to see if the temperature remains above 0 C, so...

[RobOda]

Yeah I finished on -9c lol. But looking at the temp map the equator was 30c+ so I don’t know?

[db48x]

It would be fun to make an advanced game mode where the win condition was based not on averages, but on the amount of land area that had specific conditions. You would get more points for land that had a climate like southern California (warm, humid, plenty of rain, lots of variety of plants and animals), less for areas with a climate like Colorado (cold, dry, some rain, lower air pressure, much less variety of flora and fauna, but still technically livable), and none for climates like the Sahara or Antarctica.

On the other hand, as a software engineer of no little experience, I can well imagine that this would be a fair amount of work. Probably more than you would want to do for a DLC or expansion pack, and more like a sequel.

I had a lot of fun with Per Aspera, and I hope to be able to buy that sequel some day :)

[mreed2]

Originally posted by RobOda:

Yeah I finished on -9c lol. But looking at the temp map the equator was 30c+ so I don’t know?

The temperature shown in the terraforming statistics is the average temperature of the planet as a whole. The temperature in specific locations will vary pretty dramatically from that average. For example, the current average temperature of the Earth is 14.9 C / 58.62 F (as of 2017). Obviously, there are some places where it is much, much, higher, and some places where it is much lower.

Interestingly, if you have a very low average temperature, you can view the effects of seasons on the planet -- plants won't grow in the "arctic biome", and if the average temperature is low enough, this biome will expand far enough north / south to actually kill off large amounts of vegetation, which will regrow when summer arrives for that hemisphere. Also, water will freeze as the season changes, but that's much harder to detect.