A quick question

[randomatics2]

No spoilers please, but everyone keeps talking about how traumatising and intense it is. I'm on episode 6 so far, when does the trauma come exactly? I'll keep playing regardless because I really like the story, but does the trauma come more towards the end?

[SilverRaven]

So I'm going to assume you played Extra and Unlimited before this game in my answer but honestly if you didn't its a little late now even though I'd still encourage it. Trauma starts about 3/4 of the way through chapter 6 (the first long one) but REALLY starts just under 1/3 of the way through chapter 7 only getting worse from there. You'll know it when it happens, the game doesn't pull punches. Feel free to ask a follow up if you want.

[Code x70]

It comes with the first H-scene, if you have the patch.

[randomatics2]

Thank you both. What's the H-scene btw?

[SilverRaven]

Um, that's a pretty big spoiler... At least I THINK I know what Code means by the "first" scene as in the first full length scene rather then the flashbacks to the last 2 games. I'll tell you but its a doosy.

[JamesClawk]

Honestly, the H scene just irritated me with how transparent it was with what it was doing. For me, the trauma definitely starts in Chapter 7.

[SilverRaven]

Originally posted by JamesClawk:

Honestly, the H scene just irritated me with how transparent it was with what it was doing. For me, the trauma definitely starts in Chapter 7.

I totally respect that opinion but I personally thought that despite the fact it came across as more then a little nonsensical, it was the best it could of been for what it was.

[koczwy]

I've finished the VN and I'm still waiting for the traumatising part

[koczwy]

Originally posted by Midnight Dark:

Seriously?? Or are you joking? I refuse to put out spoilers, but if you haven't seen some serious ♥♥♥♥ go down, then you didn't read the Alternative story.

I guess I didn't read it then, [Alternative spoilers] If you're talking about Sumika getting raped by the BETA, that really traumatised me... by how bad it was made within the story. It looked like a random hentai tentacle scene the author wanted to put for "research" purposes. Not my proudest fap. I can't think of any other scene that was supposed to be traumatising

[koczwy]

Originally posted by Midnight Dark:

Originally posted by 一個普通遊戲玩家:

I guess I didn't read it then, [Alternative spoilers] If you're talking about Sumika getting raped by the BETA, that really traumatised me... by how bad it was made within the story. It looked like a random hentai tentacle scene the author wanted to put for "research" purposes. Not my proudest fap. I can't think of any other scene that was supposed to be traumatising

There is also the scene referred to by fans as the "chomp chomp" scene, as well as the final battle. Trying to keep it spoiler free here.

Are you talking about marimo getting killed by the beta? That was just a cheap jumpscare. About the final battle, was it supposed to be traumatising?

[SilverRaven]

I personally found the implications of quantum computing disturbing but that's just me so any scene where it was discussed skeeved me out

[koczwy]

Originally posted by Midnight Dark:

Originally posted by 一個普通遊戲玩家:

Are you talking about marimo getting killed by the beta? That was just a cheap jumpscare. About the final battle, was it supposed to be traumatising?

You have to care about the well being of the main characters. If not, then it makes sense that the final battle would be a snooze fest for you. That and the chomp chomp scene. The psychological effect of that event was significant, and has nothing to do with jump scares. If you want jump scares, you play Five Nights at Freddy's lol.

It's not my fault they didn't make characters I could care for ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Mel]

I mean, the whole "trauma, ptsd, neverending nightmares with no therapy" part is a fandom joke that was always exaggerated from the start, so take it with a grain of salt.

Originally posted by 一個普通遊戲玩家:

It's not my fault they didn't make characters I could care for ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This here is thought provoking, tho.
Personally, I would say it is your "fault." Or, rather, not fault, but something that you are responsible for. Those story elements, be it scenes or characters, are not sentient beings and do not hold any sort of power of influence over you or your emotional responses unless you yourself, on the subconscious level, decide that they do.
The set pieces exist in any fictional work and are placed within a story with an intention (generally speaking) of achieving something. One can argue how well that intention carries over through presentation, but in this particular case I would say it is evident (looking at people's common reaction that is) that ML does some of it right. Your emotions are product of you as a person, so I don't think it is fair to "blame" anyone but yourself in this case. If "it is not your fault they didn't make character you could care for" then whose fault it is for them making characters that some people do care for? Just a food for thought. It is close to saying something like "Was Clannad supposed to be an emotional story? I didn't even cry once." It is your own feelings on matter, and you are privileged to have them, but justt be proud of them or something and say "yeah, that's just how I felt and here's why" instead of trying to justify your opinion by an attempted objective criticism stripping down each element to the very cynical and superficial level.
Anyway, just my 2 cents on the matter, not criticizing anyone here, just found topic to be interesting, you, fellas, can feel whatever you want and your personal experience is only thing that matters in the end.
That being said, after some contemplating, that octopus scene indeed was a 50/50 experience, oh well.

[Cneq]

Oh my, someone calling chomp chomp a "cheap jump scare" is a crime against humanity lmao It's literally the best scene I've ever seen in VN and put Muv-Luv from a 8/10 to a 10/10.

[koczwy]

Originally posted by cNeq:

Oh my, someone calling chomp chomp a "cheap jump scare" is a crime against humanity lmao It's literally the best scene I've ever seen in VN and put Muv-Luv from a 8/10 to a 10/10.

Maybe my expectations were a bit too high, everyone says it's one of the best VNs out there, but it's just an average story with a bad MC.
If it wasn't a cheap jumpscare, what was it supposed to be? Was I supposed to feel sad like "noooooooo generic character dies and there's gore omg I have ptsd now"? I legit don't know what I was supposed to feel when I saw it.

[Mel]

I mean, opinions are opinions but if you are going to go around calling every character "generic", whatever that means, then yes, you will feel nothing and will be left confused when talking about character-driven story. And, being completely honest here, your definition of the "jumpscare" is one of the most far-reaching that I've seen in a while. Not even adressing how you called a character who constantly develops throughout the entirety of the trilogy with the simple bad, gotta explain yourself a little on this one.