Hellbound: Survival Mode

Hellbound: Survival Mode

LinsaFTW May 23, 2018 @ 5:59pm
Less than 60 FPS - High end PC
32gb Ram, Ryzen 1700, RX 560.

The game is lagging a lot in any settings and i suspect its because it has too many polygons.

Another games that are more GPU and CPU intensive run smooth at ultra (Ex: Battlefield 4)
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LinsaFTW Jun 20, 2018 @ 2:41pm 
Nvm it makes sense. Even low poly games requiere really high end PCs now.
Last edited by LinsaFTW; Jun 20, 2018 @ 2:42pm
Originally posted by LinsaFTW:
And looks like you dont know anything about programming, its not about the graphics or the textures or the shaders, it is about how you use them. Unreal Engine handles everything really poorly and thats why most of unreal engine games are laggy as hell.

Some good devs know how to make unreal engine run good because of optimizing techniques, but most doesnt know how because unreal engine doesnt have as many guides or assets like unity does for making your game run smooth.

Gotta stop you right there bigshot.

First of all that card you're running has a snowballs chance in hell to run The Division in 60fps ultra. It being a CPU heavy game doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, because you still need that GPU to even make anything graphical happen. it won't even hit the 45 fps mark in a quiet place. No need to lie just because you want to enforce your stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ideas because your pc is so ♥♥♥♥ that you can't run a game. It also can't even run battflefield 1 at a stable 60fps as i've owned that card myself. (ohyeah, battlefield 1 also being a CPU dependant game in multiplayer.)

You seem like the kind of person that has a small ♥♥♥♥ and says "it's not about size, but how you use them." You dumb ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! Atleast try to not take everything someone says at face value, i have reasons to believe you're either stupid or 13 years old by now. This game is not the most optimised but, this is to be expected on a low end card like yours ( it's 100 euros for christ sake.) Don't expect "optimization" to fix your low end gpu's problem. It's basically as i stated in my previous post, don't complain about optimisation when your card is this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ low end.

Eitherway, i know you're living in the third world and getting a higher spec pc probably isn't going to happen in the next few years, but don't complain about optimisation when you're having a BUDGET card. I'm done marveling my brain because of some stupid kid having a tantrum over the fact that his pc is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Keep complaining you're not gonna make a change. lol
LinsaFTW Jun 21, 2018 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by Keep being salty, bro.:
Originally posted by LinsaFTW:
And looks like you dont know anything about programming, its not about the graphics or the textures or the shaders, it is about how you use them. Unreal Engine handles everything really poorly and thats why most of unreal engine games are laggy as hell.

Some good devs know how to make unreal engine run good because of optimizing techniques, but most doesnt know how because unreal engine doesnt have as many guides or assets like unity does for making your game run smooth.

Gotta stop you right there bigshot.

First of all that card you're running has a snowballs chance in hell to run The Division in 60fps ultra. It being a CPU heavy game doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, because you still need that GPU to even make anything graphical happen. it won't even hit the 45 fps mark in a quiet place. No need to lie just because you want to enforce your stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ideas because your pc is so ♥♥♥♥ that you can't run a game. It also can't even run battflefield 1 at a stable 60fps as i've owned that card myself. (ohyeah, battlefield 1 also being a CPU dependant game in multiplayer.)

Its not a lie, when it was free for a weekend i tested it with my FX 8350 and was really laggy. Then in that same weekend i got my Ryzen 1700 and i was stunned when i was increasing all the settings without getting any mayor impact in performance.

In that time i had a R7 360 card, idk if it was a bug of the game or something btw the division looks like ♥♥♥♥ not like in the E3 haha.
LinsaFTW Jun 21, 2018 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Keep being salty, bro.:
Originally posted by LinsaFTW:
And looks like you dont know anything about programming, its not about the graphics or the textures or the shaders, it is about how you use them. Unreal Engine handles everything really poorly and thats why most of unreal engine games are laggy as hell.

Some good devs know how to make unreal engine run good because of optimizing techniques, but most doesnt know how because unreal engine doesnt have as many guides or assets like unity does for making your game run smooth.

You seem like the kind of person that has a small ♥♥♥♥ and says "it's not about size, but how you use them." You dumb ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! Atleast try to not take everything someone says at face value, i have reasons to believe you're either stupid or 13 years old by now. This game is not the most optimised but, this is to be expected on a low end card like yours ( it's 100 euros for christ sake.) Don't expect "optimization" to fix your low end gpu's problem. It's basically as i stated in my previous post, don't complain about optimisation when your card is this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ low end.

Looks like you dont know anything, lol, firstable is a mid-end card, maybe you got used to rich-kid cards like the 1080ti that is ultra-end.

And secondly even low poly games this days ask for lot of resources and thats because they dont optimize properly the tools that the engine brings you.

The problem these days is the DRAW CALLS, and basically means that graphics doesnt ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ care the problem is that they are bad optimized using lot of innecesary draw calls.

A great example is NIER AUTOMATA, a game with stunning graphics but can run at 60-70FPS in ULTRA on a R7 360. Basically they optimized most parts of the world to reduce draw calls, fix unnecesary lighting, etc...

The Forest is another great example; after lot of performance patches even if it has nice graphics it can run at 90fps in my 560 build. (Reduced draw calls and change the method of antialiasing (To reduce even more draw calls))

Totally Accurate Battlegrounds never had optimization patches and runs like ♥♥♥♥ in most of pcs, this is because of draw calls too. (Too many draw calls with lighting 100% sure)
Last edited by LinsaFTW; Jun 21, 2018 @ 7:42am
It's Chase Jun 21, 2018 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by LinsaFTW:
Originally posted by Keep being salty, bro.:

You seem like the kind of person that has a small ♥♥♥♥ and says "it's not about size, but how you use them." You dumb ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥! Atleast try to not take everything someone says at face value, i have reasons to believe you're either stupid or 13 years old by now. This game is not the most optimised but, this is to be expected on a low end card like yours ( it's 100 euros for christ sake.) Don't expect "optimization" to fix your low end gpu's problem. It's basically as i stated in my previous post, don't complain about optimisation when your card is this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ low end.

Looks like you dont know anything, lol, firstable is a mid-end card, maybe you got used to rich-kid cards like the 1080ti that is ultra-end.

And secondly even low poly games this days ask for lot of resources and thats because they dont optimize properly the tools that the engine brings you.

The problem these days is the DRAW CALLS, and basically means that graphics doesnt ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ care the problem is that they are bad optimized using lot of innecesary draw calls.

A great example is NIER AUTOMATA, a game with stunning graphics but can run at 60-70FPS in ULTRA on a R7 360. Basically they optimized most parts of the world to reduce draw calls, fix unnecesary lighting, etc...

The Forest is another great example; after lot of performance patches even if it has nice graphics it can run at 90fps in my 560 build. (Reduced draw calls and change the method of antialiasing (To reduce even more draw calls))

Totally Accurate Battlegrounds never had optimization patches and runs like ♥♥♥♥ in most of pcs, this is because of draw calls too. (Too many draw calls with lighting 100% sure)
Your RX 560 is equivalent to the GTX 1050, Nvidias lowest end gaming GPU.
https://youtu.be/Pmd-J5oHrYI
Last edited by It's Chase; Jun 21, 2018 @ 12:45pm
LinsaFTW Jun 21, 2018 @ 3:07pm 
My model is the ASUS one, its OCd, has double fan and less wattage.

And i wont rely on videos, my sistem is Windows 10 MiniOS, and thats probably a big advantage.
Originally posted by LinsaFTW:
My model is the ASUS one, its OCd, has double fan and less wattage.

And i wont rely on videos, my sistem is Windows 10 MiniOS, and thats probably a big advantage.

"probably" No, just because you have a mini ost doesnt mean jack, windows isn't gonna slow down your games. lmao

Also, while tempratures and fans are important, it's not gonna make your card any less powerfull the OC isn't the difference between 60fps and 80 fps, more like 60fps - 65fps. And to brush off to not relying on videos is basically saying "no matter what you say. i'm the one who's right."

It's insulting that you told me i don't know ♥♥♥♥ about whatever the topic we were talking about, while you just showed you have no idea how hardware works.
Honestly, just gonna end the discussion here because this became retarded at the second comment. Just keep crying, and try to prove you're right and everyone else is wrong no matter what someone says or shows you.

Just to point out once more: Having a miniOS doesnt mean ♥♥♥♥ for gaming. And that OC card isn't the difference between low end and high end. Your card is low end, and you should expect performance that is low end.

Eitherway done arguing with a delusional kid that still plays minecraft. ♥♥♥♥
LinsaFTW Jun 22, 2018 @ 9:52am 
Originally posted by Keep being salty, bro.:
Eitherway done arguing with a delusional kid that still plays minecraft. ♥♥♥♥

you ran out of excuses lol

Just leave and dont ruin Hellbound, it needs optimization. Dont give fake feedback saying that "its fine".
Last edited by LinsaFTW; Jun 22, 2018 @ 9:53am
LinsaFTW Jun 22, 2018 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Keep being salty, bro.:
Originally posted by LinsaFTW:
My model is the ASUS one, its OCd, has double fan and less wattage.

And i wont rely on videos, my sistem is Windows 10 MiniOS, and thats probably a big advantage.

"probably" No, just because you have a mini ost doesnt mean jack, windows isn't gonna slow down your games. lmao

This clearly means you've never ran windows in your life, the amount of unnused processes running in the background is abbysmal in normal windows versions and slows down the whole system.
Hornbach Loungeset Jun 23, 2018 @ 12:45am 
Originally posted by LinsaFTW:
Originally posted by Keep being salty, bro.:
Eitherway done arguing with a delusional kid that still plays minecraft. ♥♥♥♥

you ran out of excuses lol

Just leave and dont ruin Hellbound, it needs optimization. Dont give fake feedback saying that "its fine".

Lel, you basically just proved everything i said about discarding everything someone tells you, kid.
Hornbach Loungeset Jun 23, 2018 @ 12:54am 
Originally posted by LinsaFTW:
Originally posted by Keep being salty, bro.:

"probably" No, just because you have a mini ost doesnt mean jack, windows isn't gonna slow down your games. lmao

This clearly means you've never ran windows in your life, the amount of unnused processes running in the background is abbysmal in normal windows versions and slows down the whole system.

Mate, what do you even know what i know? You don't even have arguments you just say "heuheuheue u kno nuffin" ♥♥♥♥ off child.

Also, those processes in the background are still not going to do ♥♥♥♥, unless you have a crap pc like yours. while. Indeed if you download 500gb of ♥♥♥♥ applications those processes from third party software WILL slow down your pc, but not the standard windows processes unless there is a bug ex: 100% diskusage or you cracked windows which usually contains a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of bloatware.

Feels > facts. That's you right now.

Can't believe i felt like writing back again. Just because you want to be right, doesn't mean someone else is wrong, kid.

Aight, ♥♥♥♥ you the best, ♥♥♥♥.
UltimateDoomer Jun 23, 2018 @ 3:35am 
The RX 560 isn't a high-end or even mid-range card. According to Wikipedia, it's entry-level:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Radeon_500_series


I have a GTX 1060 3GB, a mid-range card with relatively low VRAM. On Grotesque settings at 1920 x 1080 (with anti-aliasing set to low because I don't know exactly what kind of AA the game is using), the game runs at a consistent 60+ FPS until Wave 4, where large amounts of enemies onscreen cause the framerate to drop into the 40s. I didn't get past Wave 5 because the game started stuttering.

I'll try low settings at 1920 x 1080 and see how far I can get.

Edit: Made it to Wave 7. Died due to my own fault this time; got too close to an explosive. Framerate was much better although it still occasionally dropped into the 40s to 50s.
Last edited by UltimateDoomer; Jun 23, 2018 @ 3:59am
LinsaFTW Jun 23, 2018 @ 7:51am 
What im trying to explain is that FPS are lagging constantly, they doesnt decrease when theres lot of enemies, is just constant 50 - 55 when looking to the middle even in wave 10, 5, 2... Its like some sort of FPS lock activated.

When looking to the outskirts it goes up to 68FPS.
<Madsta> Jun 23, 2018 @ 9:15pm 
gtx 550 ti, wins 10, quad core i5, 8gb ram and playing in low settings but still plays like is 1990? what sup with that?
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