Shame about denuvo

[DrLegit]

I have had my eye on this game for a while but it seems i missed it would be including denuvo so i will have to give it a pass while the publishers feel the need to install 3rd party software onto my device to play it

[DrLegit]

Originally posted by Donaldo Trumpado:

Originally posted by DrLegit:

He seems to care that people arent buying the game so it wouldnt be a big assumption that hes in favour of them buying it

I don't care if you buy it, but public temper tantrums about how Denuvo makes you mad about literal toys are going to be met with ridicule

And unnecessary software taking resources away from developers to make better games is also going to be met with ridicule

[Goof]

Originally posted by MaSeKind:

Originally posted by Mugiwara:

Irdeto's own website refers to their "product" as software as does the Steam store page for the game. 1 question who did you think you could fool with this asinine statement?

As for the issues, they are well documented at this point. Performance is the least of the problems that come with this software.

It's part of the game, not a separate piece of software that's being installed.
Please show me in the installed apps on Windows where you see denovu?

you dont because denuvo lives underneath the OS and has kernel level access. It operates exactly like a root kit does and is undetectable by the operating system. THAT is why people dont like denuvo, to play games using it, you must give 100% access to this corporation

[Valhalla Awaits]

Originally posted by MaSeKind:

Lol no one is installing 3rd party software on your computer.
Do you even know what the apparent issues are with denovu or do you just rehash what others complain about?
Game runs amazingly well so the complaints about performance is just wrong

Seems you yourself don't understand what the issues with denuvo are, might want to educate yourself on a topic before you insult others on it.

Denuvo is a anti-tamper software, it obfuscates code, which makes it take a little longer than usual to crack it. Not by much however, a few days to a week at most. But long enough to get a bit more in sales before it's free to pirate.

However the process by which service works cause any and "ALL" software protected by it to perform significantly worse. There are no exceptions. If a game is running just fine performance wise with denuvo, it's not that denuvo didn't make it worse. It's that it simply would have run spectacularly without denuvo instead of "just fine".

This is not up for dispute. Every... Single... Game. That had denuvo has been cracked, and in each and EVERY case the game ran significantly better once it was bypassed entirely. You are uneducated on the topic, either do some reading/learning, or kindly, shut up, and stop misinforming others on this matter.

[[TOG]asmodai]

Originally posted by Donaldo Trumpado:

Do you often go on rants like this outside, about how someone else is playing with your toys and that bothers you?

Well it figures that you are ignorant enough to think a well laid out post is a "rant"... = \

Tell yourself what you need to, it's not like your opinion actually matters. ; )

[Large Tomatoes]

Originally posted by MaSeKind:

Lol no one is installing 3rd party software on your computer.
Do you even know what the apparent issues are with denovu or do you just rehash what others complain about?
Game runs amazingly well so the complaints about performance is just wrong

This is verifiably an incorrect statement! Denovu has been proven to cause choppy gameplay. Not only that, but it is installed alongside the game, Denovu isn't a no-code solution, it is built into the game executable.

Secondly, Denovu does not benefit us, it doesn't even benefit the developers or publishers as proven by many studies. People who aren't going to buy the game won't buy it anyway, people who are will do so even if they play it illegally at first. DRM does not save anybody cash and costs the developer a tidy sum to include it. So my question to you is, why on Earth do you feel the need to defend it as a consumer when DRM does nothing but harm the consumer under the disillusioned idea that it prevents loss of sales due to piracy.

GOG offers DRM free offline installers for all games and yet they are a profitable business.

[Large Tomatoes]

Originally posted by Matt:

How many of these useless threads are going to be posted?!

As many as required until companies stop paying money to the pointless and harmful DRM cabals.

[Biggles]

I only bought the game to support Denuvo - dont see why my money should fund pirates.

[Spud]

Damn, was about to pull the trigger after watching WAB's review, but this will be a hard pass for me.

Why do they do it? I mean we know why, greed. They aren't satisfied with just the money they get from sales, they need to sell access to our data to a third party firm with questionable ethics.

Games industry generally has so many anti-consumer issues right now.

[Donaldo Trumpado]

Originally posted by Spud:

Damn, was about to pull the trigger after watching WAB's review, but this will be a hard pass for me.

Why do they do it? I mean we know why, greed. They aren't satisfied with just the money they get from sales, they need to sell access to our data to a third party firm with questionable ethics.

Games industry generally has so many anti-consumer issues right now.

One of those issues is piracy, and as a consumer, I enjoy seeing the efforts of bummy little thieves being thwarted and their impotent little tantrums about how it's "bad for consumers" as they twist themselves in logical knots

[TR1PLE 6]

Originally posted by Biggles:

I only bought the game to support Denuvo - dont see why my money should fund pirates.

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, just because someone is anti-Denuvo DOES NOT mean they're a pirate!
So you want to fund being LOCKED OUT of games you paid for then?

[Donaldo Trumpado]

Originally posted by TR1PLE 6:

Originally posted by Biggles:

I only bought the game to support Denuvo - dont see why my money should fund pirates.

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, just because someone is anti-Denuvo DOES NOT mean they're a pirate!
So you want to fund being LOCKED OUT of games you paid for then?

Yes it does, scallywag

[TR1PLE 6]

Originally posted by Donaldo Trumpado:

Originally posted by TR1PLE 6:

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, just because someone is anti-Denuvo DOES NOT mean they're a pirate!
So you want to fund being LOCKED OUT of games you paid for then?

Yes it does, scallywag

No it doesn't, knock it off with this excuse!
The forced internet requirement is what we HATE. Not being able to play the game on the go, just because some stupid server has to verify it, is unacceptable.
Just try playing this when there's a an outage of the internet, Steam or even the Denuvo server itself.
YOU CAN'T! It's happened in the past

Oh who am I kidding? I'm replying to someone with a Trump pfp. 😑

[Biggles]

Originally posted by TR1PLE 6:

Originally posted by Biggles:

I only bought the game to support Denuvo - dont see why my money should fund pirates.

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, just because someone is anti-Denuvo DOES NOT mean they're a pirate!
So you want to fund being LOCKED OUT of games you paid for then?

To be perfectly frank.... I don't give a toss - it's not like I'm going to be playing the game past the time it take to complete it.

[Large Tomatoes]

Originally posted by Biggles:

To be perfectly frank.... I don't give a toss - it's not like I'm going to be playing the game past the time it take to complete it.

It is attitudes like this that keep parasitic companies in control.

[Wragan]

Originally posted by DrLegit:

I have had my eye on this game for a while but it seems i missed it would be including denuvo so i will have to give it a pass while the publishers feel the need to install 3rd party software onto my device to play it

I agree, won't buy till they remove it. Too bad, the game does looks fun.