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Bleh! Mar 21 @ 4:23pm
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The rusty guns are really bothering me
They overdid the rust on the guns, It's pretty immersion breaking and looks pretty ridiculous. Anyone with half a brain would not fire a rusty gun especially if the gun looks like it is nothing but rust as they are depicted in this game. Even the characters in the world are using rusty guns it just looks weird.

I know it's not that big a deal, I just find it weird that the dev decided to rust up the guns to such a ridiculous degree.
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CorvusJB Mar 27 @ 1:41am 
Wow! They are problems, aren't they! Is there anything that current players aren't crying about? Something's bothering everyone these days.
Are the rocks in the game too rocky? Bleh! :steamthumbsdown:
Last edited by CorvusJB; Mar 27 @ 1:42am
Originally posted by Creepy:
This dev only knows how to make guns from ww2 era.
They don't - the soldiers clearly have FN FALs.
Originally posted by Bleh!:
I didn't mean it would kill the user instantly and I know it's more likely the gun is not going to work I didn't feel I needed to state that as it's pretty obvious. However a rusty gun has the potential to explode
It won't. In order for anything to explode you need a sealed container. Guns aren't a sealed container, in fact the entire reason they work is because they've got that one opening you're hoping to push the expansion of gas down. It's not the only opening though, since guns also tend to work better if there's some means of putting bullets in them, and of course one of the side effects of igniting gunpowder is heat, and it's rather nice if you can get rid of that too.
What will tend to happen if you somehow block the main barrel is most of the gas will find it's way out via another opening which, if the gun's structure is compromised, will generally result in the gun breaking apart. It won't do so with enough force to pose a risk to whoever is holding the weapon, there's simply not enough explosive in the round for that to be an issue. As far as the user is concerned the main risk is likely burns, since it would result in exposing the internals of the gun which will be hot.
they will probably die from those wounds from an infection unless they are lucky.
Remember before we had antibiotics you could die from getting pricked by a rose bush.
Not really. The main reason people don't get infections these days is because we understand the importance of soap, and the general population isn't chronically malnourished with the resultant compromise of the immune system that tends to entail. Though even if we were to assume you suffered some kind of serious wound and thought it would be an excellent idea to go for a swim in raw sewage by 1962 disinfectants and antiseptics would be present in most homes, let alone the first aid kits liberally scattered around the place.
Installing a muzzle break, what? A typical muzzle break is a separate piece that is attached to the end of a barrel, how is that the same as a barrel that has a weak spot on it's side due to corrosion caused by rust?
A muzzle break can be placed anywhere along the barrel, it largely depends on why you're using it. Most go on the end simply because to do otherwise would require replacing the barrel. There are numerous machine pistols and submachine guns (the MP5 being a prime example) which have muzzle breaks built into the barrel to assist with cooling. Of course, provided you don't mind making it permanent you can always drill holes in the barrel - as many commando and airborne units did with the Sten.
It's the same because you're talking about the same thing. It's a hole in the barrel. It'll allow some gas to escape via the hole rather than the end of the barrel and thus less force applied to the bullet. Which tends to reduce distance, and depending on the round stopping power, but also noise and recoil which is one of the reason muzzle breaks are used. It's affect on accuracy aren't as straightforward as you think - one of the reasons they put that 'T' shaped muzzle break on the end of the big guns is because it actually results in higher accuracy due to stabilising the gun.
The military are pretty anal about keeping their equipment in pristine condition.
They don't generally expect you to break down and thoroughly clean the weapon while on an active patrol, and when it comes to the battlefield how well you can keep any weapon maintained is going to depend entirely on the conditions in the field. I've seen working pieces from places like Vietnam and WW1 that were far worse than anything seen in the game.
The main problem in that regard is more the fact that the weapons are that rusty despite the fact you can't go five metres without tripping over a bottle of gun oil.
teg Mar 27 @ 7:01am 
I was at the range once. Not long after someone put a hot load into a cheap pistol and the thing blew up. You could see gouges in the ceiling where parts of the pistol smashed into it. The guy who's gun blew up was all bandaged up. He was one of the range officials.

This was a perfectly good brand new pistol that simply couldn't take the chamber pressure from the reloaded round. I didn't think you could pack enough powder into a pistol round to blow up the chamber like that.

So guns can and do blow up. Rust degrades metal strength because the parts become thinner from the rust eroding the actual steel away. Rust isn't just a surface thing.

So as the OP states, too much rust means you probably shouldn't fire the weapon.
Originally posted by teg:
This was a perfectly good brand new pistol that simply couldn't take the chamber pressure from the reloaded round. I didn't think you could pack enough powder into a pistol round to blow up the chamber like that.
The only difference between the gunpowder used in a pistol and that used in explosives is the grain and therefore density of the powder. The charges they used for rockbreaking when building the railroads were only an inch in size. It's the problem with using recycled rounds; only takes one idiot and what you're loading would be more accurately described as a grenade rather than a bullet.
Dark Mar 27 @ 7:34am 
I have to agree, the Rust is over done. and the really screwed up thing is, theirs Gun Oil all over the place. I have some weapons of my own. Was in the Marines too. All you need to do is wipe down the weapon and it will remove most of the rust.

The first thing I did when I found some gun oil was look to see if there was an option to wipe the weapon down or clean it. Nope! So why is there Gun oil that cant be used on the weapons???
Originally posted by Dark:
I have to agree, the Rust is over done. and the really screwed up thing is, theirs Gun Oil all over the place. I have some weapons of my own. Was in the Marines too. All you need to do is wipe down the weapon and it will remove most of the rust.

The first thing I did when I found some gun oil was look to see if there was an option to wipe the weapon down or clean it. Nope! So why is there Gun oil that cant be used on the weapons???
you will be able to improve the weapon later with the help of a special skill, that's where you need oil, if you improve the weapon twice it will look like new
Mate, I found a load of dead grass too, completely immersion breaking for me. Do these people not even know about basic lawn care!
Matt Mar 27 @ 8:01am 
You learn the gun smithing perk. Use rusty weapons to turn them into better quality. It’s a simple game mechanic.
Shlone Apr 30 @ 6:02pm 
I really hate it. Actually might stop playing because they are so ugly and combat isnt that great.
The rusty guns don't bother me since they can be upgraded. I would like the ability to upgrade the arrows to flaming or even explosive arrows, but that is just me.
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