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Bleh! 3 月 21 日 下午 4:23
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The rusty guns are really bothering me
They overdid the rust on the guns, It's pretty immersion breaking and looks pretty ridiculous. Anyone with half a brain would not fire a rusty gun especially if the gun looks like it is nothing but rust as they are depicted in this game. Even the characters in the world are using rusty guns it just looks weird.

I know it's not that big a deal, I just find it weird that the dev decided to rust up the guns to such a ridiculous degree.
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GingerAvenger 3 月 21 日 下午 6:47 
Maybe rusty guns are all they have? Would you not use a rusty gun if your life depended on it?
FallenActual 3 月 21 日 下午 7:03 
steel wool and other abrasives don't exist in this world sorry lol
Sovereign 3 月 22 日 上午 1:33 
The guns work of a rarity system that goes: rusty -> stock -> pristine and you can upgrade guns to the higher tiers through the crafting system
]|[-Gaben-]|[ 3 月 22 日 下午 4:24 
the guns will most likely look in better condition the more you upgrade.
I wonder if rusty guns have jamming animations like in far cry 2 that would be a good thing to add.
Spoonardo 3 月 22 日 下午 8:16 
引用自 Bleh!
They overdid the rust on the guns, It's pretty immersion breaking and looks pretty ridiculous. Anyone with half a brain would not fire a rusty gun especially if the gun looks like it is nothing but rust as they are depicted in this game. Even the characters in the world are using rusty guns it just looks weird.

I know it's not that big a deal, I just find it weird that the dev decided to rust up the guns to such a ridiculous degree.
Apparently, appropriately fitting the content of the setting is immersion breaking, "'cause I don't like it"...
Bleh! 3 月 23 日 上午 5:02 
引用自 Spoonardo
引用自 Bleh!
They overdid the rust on the guns, It's pretty immersion breaking and looks pretty ridiculous. Anyone with half a brain would not fire a rusty gun especially if the gun looks like it is nothing but rust as they are depicted in this game. Even the characters in the world are using rusty guns it just looks weird.

I know it's not that big a deal, I just find it weird that the dev decided to rust up the guns to such a ridiculous degree.
Apparently, appropriately fitting the content of the setting is immersion breaking, "'cause I don't like it"...

And apparently pointing out that the guns wouldn't work is not immersion breaking to you and that's fine, I'm happy for you. However even a laymen such as myself who's only contact with firearms is youtube content knows that shooting a firearm that is as rusted as they are depicted in this game is just crazy. At best the gun will either not work or at worst it will catastrophically explode potentially killing the user, that's my issue. Just look at the revolver or the shotgun, those firearms as depicted in the game would not work. The shotgun clearly has deep pitting on the barrel indicating the barrel's structural integrity is seriously compromised. Remember guns aren't magic they are mechanical and anything mechanical does require that you look after it if you want it to work.

I get it's just a game and the rusty guns indicate their quality, I just don't get why the devs felt the need to rust them up as much as they did, that's why it's immersion breaking for me.

Again I'm not calling for change it's not that big a deal I'm sure it's going to be a great little game, It's just a small quibble I noticed and felt like I would make a comment on.
Bleh! 3 月 23 日 上午 5:08 
引用自 GingerAvenger
Maybe rusty guns are all they have? Would you not use a rusty gun if your life depended on it?

I definitely would avoid using a rusty gun especially if they are as rusty as they are depicted in this game. it's more likely to get you killed by either not working when you need it to or just exploding and killing you anyway. You would be better off with a knife or hefty reliable club.
最后由 Bleh! 编辑于; 3 月 23 日 上午 5:10
Guns... in Britain?

How unrealistic. There should be more knives to properly represent the main weaponry of the people there.
最后由 Sir Seanicus, Esq. 编辑于; 3 月 23 日 上午 8:59
引用自 Sir Seanicus, Esq.
Guns ...in Britain?

How unrealistic. There should be more knives to properly represent the main weaponry of the people there.
On the bright side, there would definitely be more machetes and acid beakers in the game. Oh, you weren't meaning the more contemporary arsenal.
最后由 The Ineffable Qdoggus 编辑于; 3 月 23 日 上午 9:57
BR B-263-54 3 月 23 日 上午 9:47 
引用自 Sir Seanicus, Esq.
Guns... in Britain?

How unrealistic. There should be more knives to properly represent the main weaponry of the people there.

In 1950s Britain the firearm laws were largely similar to that of the US (automatic weapons were banned in the 1940s) - you could still own a firearm for self defence this included pistols, rifles and shotguns - the law change in 1968 so only hunting and sporting purposes became legitimate reasons to own a firearm. (To no ones surprise it was a Labour government who put stricter firearms control in just as it was a Labour government in 1997 who pushed for the outright ban.)

Lots of people owned firearms in the 50s, you couldn't open carry them (vagrancy act made it so you needed a legitimate purpose to carry in public) but you could have one in your home and many people did.
最后由 BR B-263-54 编辑于; 3 月 23 日 上午 9:56
BR B-263-54 3 月 23 日 上午 10:22 
引用自 Bleh!
They overdid the rust on the guns, It's pretty immersion breaking and looks pretty ridiculous. Anyone with half a brain would not fire a rusty gun especially if the gun looks like it is nothing but rust as they are depicted in this game. Even the characters in the world are using rusty guns it just looks weird.

I know it's not that big a deal, I just find it weird that the dev decided to rust up the guns to such a ridiculous degree.

If you watch one of the latest trailers there is a quick glimpse of what I assume is some late game combat against armoured targets in underground lab where the player is seen shooting with what looks like a brand new shotgun.

They aren't all rusty.
SodBuster 3 月 23 日 上午 10:44 
alternate universe, so maybe our rules don't apply.
Nate Mc Bow 3 月 23 日 上午 11:14 
Given what I am able to gripe from the lore, it makes sense. Most of the gear are leftovers from when the quarantine was established, I guess not much stuff gets smuggled in.
]|[-Gaben-]|[ 3 月 23 日 下午 5:05 
引用自 Nate Mc Bow
Given what I am able to gripe from the lore, it makes sense. Most of the gear are leftovers from when the quarantine was established, I guess not much stuff gets smuggled in.
They’ve had to make do basically.

And any “pristine” weapons you have to cobble together with multiple weapons so it makes sense that to get anything worth while it will take some scavenging. Which I like.
archonsod 3 月 24 日 上午 4:42 
引用自 Bleh!
at worst it will catastrophically explode potentially killing the user
Not unless you're walking around with a cannon. The amount of force firing a bullet places on the gun already hits the user in the form of recoil; if it was powerful enough to kill you by exploding you aren't shooting it in the first place. Or at least, not more than once. Worst case scenario, and you'd need to have a pretty specific pattern of corrosion on the gun, is that it falls apart in your hands. Far more likely is you'll be unable to fire it in the first place.
It all largely depends on the level of rust though. Rust is fundamentally just oxidisation of the iron content of the weapon, it's quite possible to have a gun where the outer casing is covered in rust while the internals are pristine, it just depends on how it was exposed.

The shotgun clearly has deep pitting on the barrel indicating the barrel's structural integrity is seriously compromised.
As it would be if you attached a muzzle break or decided to do some after-market modifications with a saw. Barrel integrity is a bit of a non-issue; you can drill holes in the barrel and still fire the weapon, it's just not going to be as accurate or powerful as you might want it to be.
引用自 BR B-263-54
Lots of people owned firearms in the 50s, you couldn't open carry them (vagrancy act made it so you needed a legitimate purpose to carry in public) but you could have one in your home and many people did.
Particularly in rural areas like Cumbria, which still has a relatively high number of firearm licenses and shotgun certificates even today.
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