how bad are the bugs?

[datrandomduggy]

was thinking of buying this game but with all the talk about game breaking bugs springing up I was wondering if they only effect online, or do they also affect playing solo against bots?

[AronFJenks]

Many of the same bugs are problematic against Bots, but the bots are so terrible it doesn't really matter.

But yes, the same bugs related to rules, card effects, order of effects, are present in any game (solo, humans, or bots).

[datrandomduggy]

damn guess I'll hold off on buying till the games playable then. thanks for the info

[AronFJenks]

Originally posted by datrandomduggy:

damn guess I'll hold off on buying till the games playable then. thanks for the info

That might be awhile. The game has been out for 5 years and has been consistently going backwards over the past 18 months.

The entire code needs to be rewritten, and they are not willing to do that.

It's a disgusting business model - they rely on new sales from unsuspecting customers, combined with a very strict refund policy that makes it almost impossible to get a refund once people have played enough to realize all the problems.

[datrandomduggy]

if its never fixed i guess i'll never buy it then, a shame really would have liked to be able to play it online.

[AronFJenks]

Some are able to play. Others cannot. For me and many others, the game will not even launch. Or, if it does launch, it hangs or crashes before the game actually can be started.

Some can actually get a game started, btu then the game freezes, hangs, crashes, etc, before it is finishes. Desyncs, disconnects, etc.

Various rules errors and card effect errors continue to plague the game even if none of the above occur.

Anyone deciding whether to buy the game can read the reviews. they are overwhelmingly negative.

If you are looking to play online against fiends, you can google the following:

"Free Terraforming Mars Online".

[michael.drewitz]

Finally they did a good job and fixed it. I have played about 10 games in two months - no deadlocks during, no connection issues. I dont play with AI, so I cannot say anything about it.

[labster]

Originally posted by AronFJenks:

The entire code needs to be rewritten, and they are not willing to do that.

I strongly suspect that might change in the next month. Given Unity's new pricing model, and the fact that TM has quite a hatedom, I could easily see those $0.20 per install losses adding up to more than the gross revenue of all of Asmodee.

I really hope that they do rewrite the code, or take Terraforming Mars down entirely, because I like to play physical board games from Asmodee, and I don't know if Unity will be interested in continuing to print them after the inevitable bankrupcy of Asmodee. Of course if the digital products are properly insulated in their own corporation, maybe it will only give them all the video games.

[Tomax]

I own the game since the very beginning since I'm a huge fan of the board game. But the online version is also a big disappointment for me. I was able to finish the online only a few times mostly due to hanging connection to server or inability to load the game after being logged out during the game.