Terraforming Mars

Terraforming Mars

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Bezbazara Oct 28, 2024 @ 1:49pm
Inventrix bonus doesn't work?
Playing solo game. There is one ocean placed, I have 12M of and Moss card that costs 4M. It also requires 3 oceans but with Inventrix bonus, 1 ocean should be enough. However, the card is greyed out and is impossible to play. Is it a bug or I miss something?
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AronFJenks Oct 29, 2024 @ 12:38am 
You probably missed something. You also need to pay one plant to play the card, and if you do not have a plant to pay (and you cannot gain one from having played Viral Enhancers), the card is not playable.
Mars4ever Nov 20, 2024 @ 1:48am 
Originally posted by AronFJenks:
(and you cannot gain one from having played Viral Enhancers), the card is not playable.
You're wrong about this: removing a plant is not a requirement but an effect so if you can collect a plant with viral enhancers or you are Manutech, you can play moss even if you have no plants before. Fryxelius himself comfirmed that case in the bgg forum. If this doesn't work in the app, well it's obviously a bug of an incorrect applying of the rules.
AronFJenks Nov 20, 2024 @ 5:39am 
Originally posted by Mars4ever:
Originally posted by AronFJenks:
(and you cannot gain one from having played Viral Enhancers), the card is not playable.
You're wrong about this: removing a plant is not a requirement but an effect so if you can collect a plant with viral enhancers or you are Manutech, you can play moss even if you have no plants before. Fryxelius himself comfirmed that case in the bgg forum. If this doesn't work in the app, well it's obviously a bug of an incorrect applying of the rules.

You misunderstood my post. I am well aware of the rule. What I was saying is:

IF (condition 1)
AND (condition 2)
THEN Moss is unplayable.

Condition 1 is that the player does not have a plant to surrender.
Condition 2 is that the player does not have viral enhancers to gain a plan to use.
4n4 Nov 20, 2024 @ 11:24am 
Does the app even allow VE to gain the plant to use for Moss or is it forced as unavailable play if you don't have that one plant already?
AronFJenks Nov 20, 2024 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by 4n4:
Does the app even allow VE to gain the plant to use for Moss or is it forced as unavailable play if you don't have that one plant already?

Amazingly, this is one thing they actually fixed. In the first couple of years, it would not allow Moss to be played by a player who had already played VE. (Similarly, it would not allow Nitrophilic Moss for a player with VE and one plant in possession).

After numerous complaints (mostly from me), they finally added it to their list of known bugs and fixed it.

It took a couple years. To fix one short block of code for the case where a player has no plant and is trying to play Moss:

if: (player has VE)
then: ("moss" playable = YES)

It's pathetic.
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