Terraforming Mars

Terraforming Mars

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OgreMkV Jan 10, 2024 @ 1:48pm
Energy and Heat Bug?
Am I missing something in the rules? It appears that energy is reduced during production, but no heat is generated. Or is that a common issue that hasn't been fixed.
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chaney Jan 10, 2024 @ 1:55pm 
Energy resources should convert to heat during production, adding to existing heat resource, and then adding explicit heat production. If that isn't happening, it is wrong. I didn't hear about this one before, but there is a new update so fresh bugs are to be expected.
OgreMkV Jan 10, 2024 @ 2:21pm 
Thanks. For whatever reason, the little arrow flashes, the energy goes down, but the heat doesn't increase. It's a change to strategy for sure.
AronFJenks Jan 10, 2024 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by OgreMkV:
Thanks. For whatever reason, the little arrow flashes, the energy goes down, but the heat doesn't increase. It's a change to strategy for sure.

WHAT ????

That's not a change in strategy, it's a ludicrous game-breaking bug.

Let me make sure I understand.

Let's say you go into the production phase. You have 8 energy resources (not production, but actual resources). Your actual energy production is 6.

You also have 5 existing heat resources, and 7 heat production.

So, what should happen is:
The 8 existing energy resources get moved over to heat resources, giving you 13 heat resources.
Then, you produce 6 energy units and 7 heat resources, so, you start the next generation with 20 heat resources, and 6 energy resources. Are you saying that is no what happens, and that you actually start with only 12 heat resources?

If so, that's a truly unacceptable bug, which would actually be mildly surprising even by the very very low standards already set by this company.
Tomcat Jan 11, 2024 @ 6:00pm 
I have not seen this happen in any game.

If you are using up energy as a resource from things like the 4 energy > atmosphere or the 6 energy > 2 VP science, then you have ZERO energy to convert to heat.


If you don't use your energy for anything, then it converts to heat.
AronFJenks Jan 12, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Yeah, I don't think there's a bug here. I cannot replicate this. It may still exist for some, or in some situations, but I could not replicate it.
Yamin Auk Zafar May 21, 2024 @ 1:08am 
This happened to me when playing vs. 3 medium AI
AronFJenks May 21, 2024 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by Yamin Auk Zafar:
This happened to me when playing vs. 3 medium AI

What exactly happened?

You ended the action phase of a generation with some energy units, and during production, those energy units were removed from your energy pool (which is correct), but were not added to your pool of heat units? (which is incorrect). And it wasn't a case of reducing heat production during the generation? (Which would possibly offset the heat gained from energy conversion.)
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