Terraforming Mars

Terraforming Mars

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Olympus conference bug?
card reads : when you play a card with a science tag including this, gett +1 science resource added this, OR remove 1 to draw a card.

**I should be given the CHOOICE which one of these two I want.
Or it should be randomised...
instead game is just dumb...

If value = 0 : it adds 1 resource
If value = 1 : it draws card....

I played this card with a couple science cards to be played after it to get a couple easy victory points..
instead I was forced to draw cards.... and lost the game because of it..
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Je-Nas Jan 25, 2021 @ 4:24am 
I mean, ok, strictly you should be given the choice. But is there ever a reason to put a 2nd resource on this card, when it is at 1, instead a drawing a new card? If not (and I think not, right?), I'm fine with automatization of optimal play.

There IS a reason with Hellas map, where you might win award Excentric (most resources on cards) that way, but that's it. And Hellas isn't in the steam version yet.

Based on what you said, it SEEMS to me you think resources on Olympus Conference give you points, which isn't the case.
Dutchgamer1982 Jan 25, 2021 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by Je-Nas:
I mean, ok, strictly you should be given the choice. But is there ever a reason to put a 2nd resource on this card, when it is at 1, instead a drawing a new card? If not (and I think not, right?), I'm fine with automatization of optimal play.

There IS a reason with Hellas map, where you might win award Excentric (most resources on cards) that way, but that's it. And Hellas isn't in the steam version yet.

Based on what you said, it SEEMS to me you think resources on Olympus Conference give you points, which isn't the case.

I did read indeed the card as :

** for every science resource on this card : 1 VP
** for every science card played after this, including this, add 1 science resource to this card.

** OPTIONALLY you can instead of adding 1 science resource, at playing a science card, instead remove 1 science resource and draw a card.
-> effectively costing you 2 VP in exchance for 1 card draw
(something you in most cases NEVER want to do)
AronFJenks Jan 25, 2021 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:
Originally posted by Je-Nas:
I mean, ok, strictly you should be given the choice. But is there ever a reason to put a 2nd resource on this card, when it is at 1, instead a drawing a new card? If not (and I think not, right?), I'm fine with automatization of optimal play.

There IS a reason with Hellas map, where you might win award Excentric (most resources on cards) that way, but that's it. And Hellas isn't in the steam version yet.

Based on what you said, it SEEMS to me you think resources on Olympus Conference give you points, which isn't the case.

I did read indeed the card as :

** for every science resource on this card : 1 VP
** for every science card played after this, including this, add 1 science resource to this card.

** OPTIONALLY you can instead of adding 1 science resource, at playing a science card, instead remove 1 science resource and draw a card.
-> effectively costing you 2 VP in exchance for 1 card draw
(something you in most cases NEVER want to do)

where did you see anything about the science resources on the card being worth a VP?
Dutchgamer1982 Jan 25, 2021 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by AronFJenks:
Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

I did read indeed the card as :

** for every science resource on this card : 1 VP
** for every science card played after this, including this, add 1 science resource to this card.

** OPTIONALLY you can instead of adding 1 science resource, at playing a science card, instead remove 1 science resource and draw a card.
-> effectively costing you 2 VP in exchance for 1 card draw
(something you in most cases NEVER want to do)

where did you see anything about the science resources on the card being worth a VP?

the text on the card I suppose was just unclear to me...
chaney Jan 25, 2021 @ 3:11pm 
These resources are NOT worth VP. It doesn't say they do, so don't read that in. The card text in this game is reasonably precise and the designers have clarified many points.

There are situations when you would not wish to trade a resource for a card right now, but wish to delay.

-CEO's Favorite Project can only add a resource to a card if there already is one. That may be in hand but you prefer to play another Science card first.

-Eccentric as mentioned above.

-The deck is about to be shuffled and you prefer the cards in the discard pile.

In any case, this card has one of many rules not correctly implemented in this version of the game.
Last edited by chaney; Jan 25, 2021 @ 8:42pm
Je-Nas Jan 26, 2021 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by chaney:
There are situations when you would not wish to trade a resource for a card right now, but wish to delay.

-CEO's Favorite Project can only add a resource to a card if there already is one. That may be in hand but you prefer to play another Science card first.

(...)

-The deck is about to be shuffled and you prefer the cards in the discard pile.

Good points I didn't thought of, Chaney! (Although, it's yet another unfortunate thing in the Steam version that we aren't informed how many cards are still in the deck, in order to see if it's about to be reshuffled.)
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Date Posted: Jan 25, 2021 @ 2:31am
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