No Index of All the Cards . . . . . .

[Waffle]

So I stopped for a second and asked my self what would this experiance be like if I had not played dozens of games in the cardboard version. I figured if I was new the first thing I would want to do is scan the cards and read them over so I could start to see what cards and synergies are out there. Surprise, this feature does not exist. You will play dozen plus games before you see every card at a minimum, at least in your draft pool and not the ones that pop up for 4 secs when someone else plays them. How user/new player unfriendly can you get. I can't even imagine trying to learn this game via the mobile port (from the future since its not on mobile)

Like a list of cards for a game like this should be so basic.

PS: I am on a 3400x1440 monitor and I still have click a information button to read 80% of the cards.

[orjan.almen]

in an 11 generation long game, you will see at least 50 cards, that is aprox 25% of the deck if playing with corporate era.

But yes, I agree that a card index had been great. It won't be a hard thing to do for them, they have all the UI in place more or less.

[stormhearted]

Agreed - this would be a good feature to implement.

[Waffle]

Originally posted by orjan.almen:

in an 11 generation long game, you will see at least 50 cards, that is aprox 25% of the deck if playing with corporate era.

But yes, I agree that a card index had been great. It won't be a hard thing to do for them, they have all the UI in place more or less.

Thank you for highlighting this for me.

So, on average, for each game, you should expect to see a quarter of the cards you have already seen and a quarter of the cards you haven't yet seen. On average, then, the number of cards you haven't yet seen will shrink at a predictable rate:
# of cards yet to be seen:
Game 1 - 200
Game 2 - 150
Game 3 - 112.5 (we're talking about averages here, so fractions of a card are fine)
Game 4 - 84.375
...
Game 19 - 1.1275...
Game 20 - 0.8456...
​
So between Game 19 and Game 20 is when we drop below one card on average. My estimate was low thanks for pointing this out for me.

[orjan.almen]

Yes, if you're lucky, you could see all cards from 4 games (there are 208 cards) but that won't happen :P

[FroBodine]

This is a huge missing feature that absolutely should be in the game. I don't know how they can leave a card index out.

[St0nemender]

Hm. In our games we usually go through the whole deck at least once, how do you only see so few cards?!

[KAKLAW]

Originally posted by ＭｃＷａｆｆｌｅ:

So I stopped for a second and asked my self what would this experiance be like if I had not played dozens of games in the cardboard version. I figured if I was new the first thing I would want to do is scan the cards and read them over so I could start to see what cards and synergies are out there. Surprise, this feature does not exist. You will play dozen plus games before you see every card at a minimum, at least in your draft pool and not the ones that pop up for 4 secs when someone else plays them. How user/new player unfriendly can you get. I can't even imagine trying to learn this game via the mobile port (from the future since its not on mobile)

Like a list of cards for a game like this should be so basic.

PS: I am on a 3400x1440 monitor and I still have click a information button to read 80% of the cards.

I dont understand, do you work for another company or what ? it is like the 5 or more post you do to complain. Just enjoy what it is done for the moment and wait for fix that is comming fast at what we can read. You dont like it then just ask for refound and stop crying about it. The game is really nice for this kind of port, i have play some game already and all went good, i had 1 bug i just restart the game and all was fine, and i am not crying about it.

[Waffle]

Originally posted by KAKLAW:

Originally posted by ＭｃＷａｆｆｌｅ:

So I stopped for a second and asked my self what would this experiance be like if I had not played dozens of games in the cardboard version. I figured if I was new the first thing I would want to do is scan the cards and read them over so I could start to see what cards and synergies are out there. Surprise, this feature does not exist. You will play dozen plus games before you see every card at a minimum, at least in your draft pool and not the ones that pop up for 4 secs when someone else plays them. How user/new player unfriendly can you get. I can't even imagine trying to learn this game via the mobile port (from the future since its not on mobile)

Like a list of cards for a game like this should be so basic.

PS: I am on a 3400x1440 monitor and I still have click a information button to read 80% of the cards.

I dont understand, do you work for another company or what ? it is like the 5 or more post you do to complain. Just enjoy what it is done for the moment and wait for fix that is comming fast at what we can read. You dont like it then just ask for refound and stop crying about it. The game is really nice for this kind of port, i have play some game already and all went good, i had 1 bug i just restart the game and all was fine, and i am not crying about it.

Lol, no. I didn’t get a refund though. So I am forced to play the game, look for issues, and post about them here. It’s my only option as a consumer who feels disenfranchised. Notice no one had pointed out this glaringly obvious missing feature. I shouldn’t provide my Q&A services free of charge, but here I am anyways. My volume of complaints and pointing things out isn’t something to be held against me but seen as an effort to improve a product that I believe may have potential to be worth the 25$ I spent.

You say its a good port but its not, its a good mobile port. This one just happened to be released on PC first in the mobile form. I am glad you are happy with the game and would suggest you just avoid my topics if you wish to not hear more critical thoughts on the game.

[invalid@HK]

Originally posted by KAKLAW:

I dont understand, do you work for another company or what ? it is like the 5 or more post you do to complain. Just enjoy what it is done for the moment and wait for fix that is comming fast at what we can read. You dont like it then just ask for refound and stop crying about it. The game is really nice for this kind of port, i have play some game already and all went good, i had 1 bug i just restart the game and all was fine, and i am not crying about it.

If this game is released as "Early Access", things may have changed accordingly, which I think this company did that for some other games (Scythe?).

What most people, including me is disappointed by the beta quality of this game yet the price tag is the highest among the recent games this company has released.

Also they release first for PC, but the gameplay feels so tablet/mobile oriented.

[Isotope X]

You can find card indices online, one option is at https://ssimeonoff.github.io/. True, it would have been better to include it in the game.