Does Ice Suck?

[Xoth]

All i have found were posts from 2009, is it still bad?

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

Originally posted by Noblesse:

Originally posted by wizard master結城晶子リ:

that is good in pvp and pve iv done all schools and i do hve to say balance is more of a struggle to play thru since balance vs balance fights can last long since they have no convert

It's not needed, and just makes encounters take too long. I think Ice and Balance are probably the worst for pve at the moment, followed up by life.

have youcurrently played as they changed all the schools as they are all much better now they ven gave every onew new spells life and balance now have damage bubble as well as blanace now bebing abale ot learn balance frost gint witch is verry good

[DONKTARTS]

yes

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

Originally posted by throat goat 1337:

yes

unless uplayed ice for years you have no imput on what its like being an ice so no

[Red_Lunar_Shade]

Comments here seem to go back and forth here, but as someone who has played this game back in the hey-day and is an ice main, I'll offer my point of view from a PvE standpoint since I tend to stay away from PvP for the most part.

Ice by itself is a very good class, lot's of HP and specializing in defense. They have a 0-pip spell where you can summon a shield that will absorb half the damage of any form of spell. They also have decent combo wards (Trying to get back into this with a new account so I haven't looked at ice for a long time, i think it's a fire and lightning combo ward spell they have.) Odds are as long as you use your training points for maybe a couple life spells then you will be able to keep yourself alive to the point where the enemy will probably suffer from lack of sleep...

If you are with a team though, odds are they will not find you useful for doing damage, however, you will be pretty useful with your wards, Especially the ignoring 50% damage one and the exclusive Freeze spell that only ice wizards can get where you stun an enemy for a turn. (HORRIBLE ACCURACY THOUGH IN MY OPINION AS IT'S ONLY 70%) So you will be great for keeping a team alive while everyone else does the real work for you. I've flipped some losing battles in a couple dungeons WAY back during the game's first few years.

Basically imagine Ice wizards in general like this stupid little thing I just came up with off the top of my head: Ice is known to be a hard solid, meaning that Ice wizards can be hard to kill in general due to basically being built like a solid wall or tank as others have said before me in this thread.

Ice has always been a good class, never bad. But obviously their spells have never been so keen on damage.

[Noblesse]

Originally posted by wizard master結城晶子リ:

Originally posted by throat goat 1337:

yes

unless uplayed ice for years you have no imput on what its like being an ice so no

We get it, you main ice...
But honestly, it's foolish to think you need to play a school for years to know how to use it. Wizard101 is really not that complicated. Besides that, how good a certain school is can easily be changed depending on KI's mood and whatever buffs/nerfs they release... once again, making your experience with ice... well, useless.


Moving on, it's simple. Ice is a tank class with little to no damage output compared to other schools. The game, in it's current state, does not require tanking for the most part. It's just a waste of time and makes battles longer. It's just a much easier and streamlined experience if you go for a more dmg-oriented school like Fire/Storm or if you want dmg with survivability, then there's Death.

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

Originally posted by Noblesse:

Originally posted by wizard master結城晶子リ:

unless uplayed ice for years you have no imput on what its like being an ice so no

We get it, you main ice...
But honestly, it's foolish to think you need to play a school for years to know how to use it. Wizard101 is really not that complicated. Besides that, how good a certain school is can easily be changed depending on KI's mood and whatever buffs/nerfs they release... once again, making your experience with ice... well, useless.


Moving on, it's simple. Ice is a tank class with little to no damage output compared to other schools. The game, in it's current state, does not require tanking for the most part. It's just a waste of time and makes battles longer. It's just a much easier and streamlined experience if you go for a more dmg-oriented school like Fire/Storm or if you want dmg with survivability, then there's Death.

the game has changed over the years ice is notthe same asit used to beit has more stuff that can become strong as many ice wizards can have 100 ice damage or higher ice may nothave strongest spells but you can hit hard still plus every other boss in the gamehas ben nerfed many many times so any school can hit hard some harder than others but outright saying icesucks not even fair because it does not suck you can hit hard as well as tanking you just gotta get the right gear the game has change so the normal schools status is no longer the point any more back then maybe ice was not that good but since then ice has gotten better in both pve and pvp

[Hunk]

Ice players never think about this: What does all of their health, resist, and defensives amount to when the enemy died before they could take advantage of those strengths? Nothing.

Oh you can elemental blade? So can everyone else. Balance and death are better choices if you want to support.

Life is even more invincible, supplying themselves and their team with infinite health while Ices sit in a corner for 5 rounds just to do the amount of damage Storm can do in a couple.

What is the point of having more survivability when your damage is so low that it requires you to have that tankiness in the first place? Lol..

The worst part is, Ice players don't even care. They'll sit around getting carried through dungeons until they're Cosmic, then go back to the Commons flexing that Ice is "the most fearsome school."

[tamago]

ice is pretty bad, i'd recommend other classes, just because i played ice all my time on the game, and i would say KI does not give a damn about ice, the second you start reaching endgame and people have pierce with tons of outgoing damage, ltierally death is the best option for you, you can have resist, and heal while doing damage

[Cubethulhu]

I just started playing a month ago with Myth as my primary. At first, I used my training points to get Ice spells because I thought the 80% accuracy would be decent and I needed another School to battle Myth due to even early game enemies using Myth Resist spells. After using Ice for a while and studying all the schools more and even looking at Wiki to figure out what's available for training besides Ravenwood I decided Ice is... Pretty worthless. So I reset my training and went with Life. Myth+Life is a great PVE combo. Ice doesn't have any clincher cards except the Stun/Freeze, has overall very low damage, and I just don't see how it would combo well with other schools either. Yeah, you can be tanky, but being a tank when you can have drain from death or even Life school regen is so much better than tanking because they have more uses than just defense. Death deals damage while healing and Life can heal your bros or cause you to heal while attacking/doing other stuff.

TLDR; When you compare Ice with the other schools in relation to the game being turn based Ice is going to under-perform. I'm not saying Ice players suck tho. I respect running underdog classes and doing challenge runs or handicapping yourself.

[kermit]

to me personally, maybe? i would say ice, life, and balance are not the easiest and don't give out the best damage or quests.

[evs]

ice isn't great in PVE but i think it's the safest class to play at any level bracket in PVP

[OrangeMade]

I've not tried Ice, I play a minimalist pure Balance most the time - I know I hate fighting them, no matter my class.

I know the OP is probably not around reading anymore- but MAJOR point of question - 'Suck' how exactly? OP doesn't separate PvE from PvP - which makes a difference in the answers.

The OP should also answer the question: WHAT IS YOUR OBJECTIVE for your character? Farming? Questing? PvP? Not Dying? Teamwork (like if you play w/ family)? Role-play? Aesthetic/theme?

Any answer to the above can help you pick your best character.





What I'm curious about is this:
You get xp in battle every turn you cast a spell (I don't think you get more for more mana use, but I can't explicitly remember rn.) - so an Ice wizard with longer battles gets more xp per battle - So there is a LIMITED potential for faster leveling.

(Which is still negligible probably, Most leveling xp seems to come from quest rewards, in my opinion.)


And not that anyone cares, but as Balance was brought up as a bad class - well most battles PvE I'm winning easily most the time, with the infrequent bad shuffles leaving me beat. Instance and Boss battles are very mixed bag - some are super easy, some super hard, and some luck of the draw. Ultimately, I think my results are 'balanced', with a side 'handicap' of being overleveled for my questing world skewing things in my favor... (I finished grinding for Watchtower Hall before I left Mooshu - breezed through Dragonspyre, but still got trounced by Malistaire before I got lucky.)