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Tom Oct 23, 2022 @ 2:21pm
Coop looks good, what's stopping multiplayer campaign pvp?
Coop looks good, what's stopping multiplayer campaign pvp? Isn't it a small step to that if coop is already working?
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Tom Oct 24, 2022 @ 4:02am 
Bump, pvp campaign would be awesome.
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Citrus Arms Oct 24, 2022 @ 5:19am 
Ok, I'll bite. How should it work?
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Tom Oct 24, 2022 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by Citrus Arms:
Ok, I'll bite. How should it work?

Pool resources to build starports that build over time in a system, destroy and build your own starport to conquer that system. Build sensors to detect where players are and any incoming fleets. If coop is working, the network connection is there, shouldn't be much of a leap to make it.
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Kikyo Oct 24, 2022 @ 7:04am 
how about pve singleplay ?
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Tom Oct 24, 2022 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Kikyo:
how about pve singleplay ?

You can do both ya know.
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Citrus Arms Oct 24, 2022 @ 8:45am 
Right, but the PvP part. You gotta balance things, too. What kind of game flow would this introduce? You clash and lose the PvP bout, destroying your last ship. Your station gets destroyed. What then? This game is intended for long-form play, if two players clash, one will lose and be set back possibly very far, which is more frustrating than fun.
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GWOP-W×TCH Oct 24, 2022 @ 9:22am 
waiting to see how starsector handles it so they can just copy and paste it.
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Bonez Oct 24, 2022 @ 9:27am 
Originally posted by 3OOBLK-imok-:
waiting to see how starsector handles it so they can just copy and paste it.


is starsector planning for multiplayer? that'd be news to me (great news mind you)
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Tom Oct 24, 2022 @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by Citrus Arms:
Right, but the PvP part. You gotta balance things, too. What kind of game flow would this introduce? You clash and lose the PvP bout, destroying your last ship. Your station gets destroyed. What then? This game is intended for long-form play, if two players clash, one will lose and be set back possibly very far, which is more frustrating than fun.

Balance - Already addressed, the prior game had many tweaks to make ships balanced in pvp. Yes if your last ship and station gets destroyed, you lose the game. That doesn't mean you can't build other ships, and use them. I don't see how this is difficult to do or understand.
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Tom Oct 24, 2022 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by 3OOBLK-imok-:
waiting to see how starsector handles it so they can just copy and paste it.

Yeah starsector is a good one, been recently playing it, unfortunatly it's missing so much that the mods address.
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Citrus Arms Oct 26, 2022 @ 8:38pm 
Originally posted by Fang:
Originally posted by Citrus Arms:
Right, but the PvP part. You gotta balance things, too. What kind of game flow would this introduce? You clash and lose the PvP bout, destroying your last ship. Your station gets destroyed. What then? This game is intended for long-form play, if two players clash, one will lose and be set back possibly very far, which is more frustrating than fun.

Balance - Already addressed, the prior game had many tweaks to make ships balanced in pvp. Yes if your last ship and station gets destroyed, you lose the game. That doesn't mean you can't build other ships, and use them. I don't see how this is difficult to do or understand.
I'm not talking about ship balance, I'm talking about game flow and balance.

Destruction in career mode DOES mean EXACTLY that. If you lose your last ship, you're done, so introducing PvP into co-op career turns it from career gameplay into deathmatch gameplay. The goal becomes not to just play and enjoy and explore but to defeat the other player, which will END the game for the other player.
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KungFury Oct 26, 2022 @ 11:32pm 
What's wrong if it would be like pvp death match? I guess people choosing this game mode want it exactly like that. At least I would play it :)
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Tom Oct 27, 2022 @ 1:30am 
Originally posted by Citrus Arms:
Originally posted by Fang:

Balance - Already addressed, the prior game had many tweaks to make ships balanced in pvp. Yes if your last ship and station gets destroyed, you lose the game. That doesn't mean you can't build other ships, and use them. I don't see how this is difficult to do or understand.
I'm not talking about ship balance, I'm talking about game flow and balance.

Destruction in career mode DOES mean EXACTLY that. If you lose your last ship, you're done, so introducing PvP into co-op career turns it from career gameplay into deathmatch gameplay. The goal becomes not to just play and enjoy and explore but to defeat the other player, which will END the game for the other player.

So? You can make it so you spawn back at a base and grab another ship. What are you not getting? Career mode is GOING to be different to pvp. THATS THE POINT OF PVP.

Originally posted by KungFury:
What's wrong if it would be like pvp death match? I guess people choosing this game mode want it exactly like that. At least I would play it :)

This guy gets it.
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Katitoff Oct 27, 2022 @ 1:36am 
Originally posted by Fang:
what's stopping multiplayer campaign pvp?
Pacing/changing time/game speed/scale/the fact that if you go offline, your ships go into full control of the host.
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pyr0kid Oct 27, 2022 @ 2:03am 
Originally posted by Bonez:
Originally posted by 3OOBLK-imok-:
waiting to see how starsector handles it so they can just copy and paste it.


is starsector planning for multiplayer? that'd be news to me (great news mind you)
No.

but i'd give it 50/50 on some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ modding it in within 3 years of 1.0
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