Cosmoteer: Starship Architect & Commander

Cosmoteer: Starship Architect & Commander

Overwhelmingly Positive reviews... (skepticism) --EDIT: DISREGARD - GOT WHAT I NEED
...based on countless experience with observing review bombs for decent games from new Steam releases, as well as being played a fool for many "Pump and Dump" release reviews such as V-Rising and Lost Ark. So, please humor my skepticism when I observe that this early "OP" rating with over a thousand reviews seems a bit... anomalous.

I find it HIGHLY unusual to see so very little criticism out there. Unless this is the next Rimworld or Factorio. So... "IS" this the next RimWorld or Factorio?

Please forgive my crass attitude or overly blunt insinuation. It's very late right now, I've had a long day, and with nine hours to go in the Steam Sale, I'd prefer not to be taken advantage of, yet again. I would be buying this for myself and my son to share time. Many options out there, but I don't want us to miss out on a good thing, either. Apologies in advance. Just stressed out right now with the way Steam does reviews and the "HiDDeN gEm" YouTube culture right now. I just don't know who I can trust. (so of course I ask a bunch of strangers here... *sigh*. I need some sleep.)

Sorry. Been around the block a few times, and have a few scrapes.

Thanks in advance.
Laatst bewerkt door Cloudy; 31 okt 2022 om 1:04
Origineel geplaatst door Duke Leto:
I think a game with good reviews is a game that pretty much delivers on it's promise and doesn't try to deceive it's buyers of the actual play mechanics. The game also has to be repetitively bug free and entertaining, but having people buy your game that are not into that type of game, will also lead to bad reviews.

That said, this game can be a bit hard to learn, but the game has been around for quite a while, so help is possible. Also, I think a lot of early buyers are also people that have played it for a while.

I suspect the end game may leave something to be desired, as I think the game challenges just get bigger and not necessarily different. I am not into multiplayer, but of course that can change things up, so that is a benefit.

It is a bit of a brutal game that kinda leads to save scumming because the fights are quick and it is hard to run away... so the fights are kinda won in the design stage.

I bought the game 3 days ago and already have 35 hours, so I am enjoying it atm, that said I do play the game fairly slowly as designing ships takes time. Time will tell if the game evolves through early access.
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And who is this Walternate Realities? Another one-person show? No offense at all, just getting my bearings. I was trying to find other projects they've worked on in the past to justify hitting a home run out of the park on the first try.

EDIT: ah, here we go. https://waltdestler.com/
Excellent, thank you! Very interesting - we might come back to these.
Laatst bewerkt door Cloudy; 31 okt 2022 om 0:57
How about you try the demo instead of a bunch of pessimistic blustering no one wants to hear?
Disney Imagineer... Carnegie Melon... Rumble Games (Heroes of the Spire). OKIE DOKIE this guy is f-king legit. Sold x2, again, sorry for the crappy attitude. I'm just tired of the grind, you know? Thanks for putting yourself out there!
Origineel geplaatst door PhotriusPyrelus:
How about you try the demo instead of a bunch of pessimistic blustering no one wants to hear?

No one wants to hear. I'm sorry I wasn't aware it was my job to entertain you. How about you fire me and click that little BLOCK/IGNORE button, there friendo. Anyways, I figured it out without your edgy trolling, so have a nice day.
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I think a game with good reviews is a game that pretty much delivers on it's promise and doesn't try to deceive it's buyers of the actual play mechanics. The game also has to be repetitively bug free and entertaining, but having people buy your game that are not into that type of game, will also lead to bad reviews.

That said, this game can be a bit hard to learn, but the game has been around for quite a while, so help is possible. Also, I think a lot of early buyers are also people that have played it for a while.

I suspect the end game may leave something to be desired, as I think the game challenges just get bigger and not necessarily different. I am not into multiplayer, but of course that can change things up, so that is a benefit.

It is a bit of a brutal game that kinda leads to save scumming because the fights are quick and it is hard to run away... so the fights are kinda won in the design stage.

I bought the game 3 days ago and already have 35 hours, so I am enjoying it atm, that said I do play the game fairly slowly as designing ships takes time. Time will tell if the game evolves through early access.
I follow the game a few years now. Its a good game. And btw, it has 96% positive reviews and will mostly stuck an something like 94%. So far away from factorio, which has like 99% positive. Which is a lot for such a niche genre.

PS: Your very aggressive here. Instead of asking "Is it worth it" you already making some assumption. Even judging the people who should answer you:

Origineel geplaatst door Cloudy:
I just don't know who I can trust. (so of course I ask a bunch of strangers here... *sigh*. I need some sleep.)
"Hello Person there, i want your opinion. But can i even thrust a stranger like you".

Origineel geplaatst door Cloudy:
Disney Imagineer... Carnegie Melon... Rumble Games (Heroes of the Spire). OKIE DOKIE this guy is f-king legit. Sold x2, again, sorry for the crappy attitude. I'm just tired of the grind, you know? Thanks for putting yourself out there!
Ok, now im convinced your A) trolling for fun or B) this is your real attitude, which would suck. I hope this is not your everyday mood. (Your sarcasticly insulting and then apologicing in the same sentence, lol)
Nope this is me, I'm just abrasive (although I'm sure a doctor would have a special name for it). I do apologize--I don't catch it as often as I should. It's not okay, and I'm trying to work on it. Thanks for the perspective. I'll try to tone it down.
Laatst bewerkt door Cloudy; 31 okt 2022 om 1:25
Origineel geplaatst door Cloudy:
...based on countless experience with observing review bombs for decent games from new Steam releases, as well as being played a fool for many "Pump and Dump" release reviews such as V-Rising and Lost Ark. So, please humor my skepticism when I observe that this early "OP" rating with over a thousand reviews seems a bit... anomalous.

I find it HIGHLY unusual to see so very little criticism out there. Unless this is the next Rimworld or Factorio. So... "IS" this the next RimWorld or Factorio?

Please forgive my crass attitude or overly blunt insinuation. It's very late right now, I've had a long day, and with nine hours to go in the Steam Sale, I'd prefer not to be taken advantage of, yet again. I would be buying this for myself and my son to share time. Many options out there, but I don't want us to miss out on a good thing, either. Apologies in advance. Just stressed out right now with the way Steam does reviews and the "HiDDeN gEm" YouTube culture right now. I just don't know who I can trust. (so of course I ask a bunch of strangers here... *sigh*. I need some sleep.)

Sorry. Been around the block a few times, and have a few scrapes.

Thanks in advance.
its ok to be skeptic.

the game still in early access.

the campaign need a lot of rework
⇧⇨⇩⇩⇩ (Verbannen) 31 okt 2022 om 2:07 
Origineel geplaatst door MisterSpock:
I follow the game a few years now. Its a good game. And btw, it has 96% positive reviews and will mostly stuck an something like 94%. So far away from factorio, which has like 99% positive. Which is a lot for such a niche genre.

PS: Your very aggressive here. Instead of asking "Is it worth it" you already making some assumption. Even judging the people who should answer you:

Origineel geplaatst door Cloudy:
I just don't know who I can trust. (so of course I ask a bunch of strangers here... *sigh*. I need some sleep.)
"Hello Person there, i want your opinion. But can i even thrust a stranger like you".

Origineel geplaatst door Cloudy:
Disney Imagineer... Carnegie Melon... Rumble Games (Heroes of the Spire). OKIE DOKIE this guy is f-king legit. Sold x2, again, sorry for the crappy attitude. I'm just tired of the grind, you know? Thanks for putting yourself out there!
Ok, now im convinced your A) trolling for fun or B) this is your real attitude, which would suck. I hope this is not your everyday mood. (Your sarcasticly insulting and then apologicing in the same sentence, lol)

Hmm, I cant help but notice your avatar uses the same hand signal as one of the cursors used in the game. Could it be that you are a plant hired to shill the game?

(this is a joke) ;)
Origineel geplaatst door morrganstain:

(this is a joke) ;)

LOL - I see your point :) I do like that avatar, though.
Origineel geplaatst door Cloudy:

Thanks in advance.


the game has some real janky parts, a lot that is "automated" behavior should not be, and a lot you have to do manually, frankly should be automated.

that said, I also already got a sht ton of hours into it and it is definitely captivating.

if this goes where I hope it does: a much bigger "campaign" world with more goods, real economy and more things to add to the shiip and optimize, then it's gonna be one of the great ones.

it deserves the rating atm.

if the dev decides it's really about "lol I just blew up your ship! haha! soooo enterttaining! we should stream this!"- multiplayer garbage, then the rating becomes undeserved.

everything can be fun with a buddy and a few beers for some people. including bad things.
but honestly, I hope he does not get too hung up on the multiplayer crowd and the roadmap (none of the items on which are a promise) looks good.


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why I'm writing this is Pyanodon's mod suite for factorio.

that's "the next factorio". (along with many other great mods)

I rarely ever had so much fun ever in gaming. it's in the ingame mod browser. such complexity and sooooooooo many fluids, materials and so on... I think it's like over a thousand...

if you've never played mods, I hear Krastorio mod is good for first timers of moderately expanded mods.
Py is factorio cubed - basically... it's a nightmare. but I love it
It very much has the potential to be the Rimworld of its genre, yes. Is it there now? No. But it's a very strong - and very stable - start. The last time I remember playing an early access game that impressed me with how complete it felt (despite the fact that so much more was to come) and how stable it ran?

Rimworld.
All I can say is, I would give it a positiv review as well from my point of view at the moment. But I will put in some more hours first.

Why I would do that?
It does what I expected and even a bit more.

I can design Ships, test them and find out that I'm bad at it - repeat.

While I can also just use the Sandbox Galaxy mode and scoot around and learn more about the Game.

Is it a big 1000 things to do story driven full fledge AAA game? No and it does not act like one. Its a nieche game and it fits in perfectly so far.

Besides from that I seem to found the "killer" ship in the gamefiles (pre configured, need to test a bit more, which some what shocks me as it is so damn simple)...
Something else to keep in mind, Similar to Factorio and Rimworld to give just two examples while the game has just released on Steam it has been available for much longer. For this one specifically the prototype dates back to 2013 and Cosmoteer's first incarnation released in 2016. I for one have been playing on and off for years.

It's not uncommon with such games to see significant positive reviews at the outset from players who have had a lot more experience with them that the Steam release date would suggest.
Origineel geplaatst door Dinger:
Something else to keep in mind, Similar to Factorio and Rimworld to give just two examples while the game has just released on Steam it has been available for much longer. For this one specifically the prototype dates back to 2013 and Cosmoteer's first incarnation released in 2016. I for one have been playing on and off for years.

It's not uncommon with such games to see significant positive reviews at the outset from players who have had a lot more experience with them that the Steam release date would suggest.

Great point and I would not be surprised to see a similar response from something like Star Sector as well if/when it releases on Steam. But yes, great point--thats why I asked (rather beligerantly, I'm observing, now, this morning; man I should have eaten a Snickers!).

I ended up buying and playing this briefly and it immediately sucked me in. Rating well deserved. Can't wait to play it with my kiddo! He really loves these sandbox building type games, and I'm super excited to see what his mind comes up with!
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