so...any more updates?

[The Only One]

So will we get anymore updates ? we are still lacking the god of destruction race for example, or the ability to use ultra instinct on saiyans etc.

[Elijah of Worldbuilding]

next game probably. it also probably won't be released to the west/english translated.

[nobalkain]

Anything beyond what we got is using a new engine in the Arcades. So in order to Port it into this game they would have to create it from scratch, and they are not going to do that. Consider this game complete.

[The Only One]

*sight* i hate japanese only stuff....i want more....so much more...i want a game that has ALL the missions and characters from big bang to universal and beyond!

[[ODT]Piccolo]

Got the game for this weekend's deal. Bamco been updating Xenoverse 2 and DBZ: Kakrot this year. Super Dragonball Heroes the arcade version is at it's Ultra God Mission update leaving the version we're playing without the UGM storylines, plus Orange Piccolo and Gohan Beast. Because this is Dragonball's sole trading card game that's popular in the east, there's a reason I'm playing this to learn how this game works, plus I like card games. The majority of western DB fans prefer fighters.

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by ODTPiccolo:

Got the game for this weekend's deal. Bamco been updating Xenoverse 2 and DBZ: Kakrot this year. Super Dragonball Heroes the arcade version is at it's Ultra God Mission update leaving the version we're playing without the UGM storylines, plus Orange Piccolo and Gohan Beast. Because this is Dragonball's sole trading card game that's popular in the east, there's a reason I'm playing this to learn how this game works, plus I like card games. The majority of western DB fans prefer fighters.

This isnt really a TCG. You just Scan your Card into the Arcade Machine and play QT Events and move them around like we do in the game. You cant even play without one or the other. Even if you can get the Cards there are no TCG Mechanics outside the Arcade Machine.

There was a real DBZ TCG back in the day, but I dont think they make it anymore. I have been out of the TCG Scene for a long time now though so I cant say for sure.

[[ODT]Piccolo]

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Originally posted by ODTPiccolo:

Got the game for this weekend's deal. Bamco been updating Xenoverse 2 and DBZ: Kakrot this year. Super Dragonball Heroes the arcade version is at it's Ultra God Mission update leaving the version we're playing without the UGM storylines, plus Orange Piccolo and Gohan Beast. Because this is Dragonball's sole trading card game that's popular in the east, there's a reason I'm playing this to learn how this game works, plus I like card games. The majority of western DB fans prefer fighters.

This isnt really a TCG. You just Scan your Card into the Arcade Machine and play QT Events and move them around like we do in the game. You cant even play without one or the other. Even if you can get the Cards there are no TCG Mechanics outside the Arcade Machine.

There was a real DBZ TCG back in the day, but I dont think they make it anymore. I have been out of the TCG Scene for a long time now though so I cant say for sure.

I should have refer this as a DIGITAL TCG. But, this isn't like Hearthstone or Magic the Gathering from my point of view those games do not imply a QTE to decide the outcome of the game. Of course, the arcade version require those physical cards to scan into the machine to play the game.

I get why it's extremely popular in Japan for being so different.

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by ODTPiccolo:

Originally posted by nobalkain:

This isnt really a TCG. You just Scan your Card into the Arcade Machine and play QT Events and move them around like we do in the game. You cant even play without one or the other. Even if you can get the Cards there are no TCG Mechanics outside the Arcade Machine.

There was a real DBZ TCG back in the day, but I dont think they make it anymore. I have been out of the TCG Scene for a long time now though so I cant say for sure.

I should have refer this as a DIGITAL TCG. But, this isn't like Hearthstone or Magic the Gathering from my point of view those games do not imply a QTE to decide the outcome of the game. Of course, the arcade version require those physical cards to scan into the machine to play the game.

I get why it's extremely popular in Japan for being so different.

I think you missed my point when I was talking about the Arcade. Its not just that the Arcade needs the Cards, the Cards need the Arcade. There are no Rules to use outside the Arcade. The Cards are just Pictures with Stats and a Bar-code you scan into the Machine. You literally cannot play one without the Other. Its just a Arcade Game that uses TCG Sales Mechanics as a major Revenuer Source. So while it does use Cards and its Gotcha System as a Gimmick, it has very little else in common with TCGs.

I basically just didnt want you to think that you could just Import the Cards and be able to play it like a TCG since without the Arcade Machine they are just Collectors Cards and not a TCG.

[[ODT]Piccolo]

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Originally posted by ODTPiccolo:

I should have refer this as a DIGITAL TCG. But, this isn't like Hearthstone or Magic the Gathering from my point of view those games do not imply a QTE to decide the outcome of the game. Of course, the arcade version require those physical cards to scan into the machine to play the game.

I get why it's extremely popular in Japan for being so different.

I think you missed my point when I was talking about the Arcade. Its not just that the Arcade needs the Cards, the Cards need the Arcade. There are no Rules to use outside the Arcade. The Cards are just Pictures with Stats and a Bar-code you scan into the Machine. You literally cannot play one without the Other. Its just a Arcade Game that uses TCG Sales Mechanics as a major Revenuer Source. So while it does use Cards and its Gotcha System as a Gimmick, it has very little else in common with TCGs.

I basically just didnt want you to think that you could just Import the Cards and be able to play it like a TCG since without the Arcade Machine they are just Collectors Cards and not a TCG.

But, I CAN'T import the physical cards without the machine.(And I won't bother bringing up the anime convention as a source to find the arcade machine...) As those arcade machines in Japan are exclusively to the east. You're right that they'll only be collectible cards with it. I'm just saying this game isn't like Magic or Hearthstone.

I have little hope Bamco would update this game with an expansion to add the new content from the latest arcade version in Japan.

[Queen HawlSera]

Originally posted by Elijah of Worldbuilding:

next game probably. it also probably won't be released to the west/english translated.

Why not, didn't this game do well enough?

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by ODTPiccolo:

Originally posted by nobalkain:

I think you missed my point when I was talking about the Arcade. Its not just that the Arcade needs the Cards, the Cards need the Arcade. There are no Rules to use outside the Arcade. The Cards are just Pictures with Stats and a Bar-code you scan into the Machine. You literally cannot play one without the Other. Its just a Arcade Game that uses TCG Sales Mechanics as a major Revenuer Source. So while it does use Cards and its Gotcha System as a Gimmick, it has very little else in common with TCGs.

I basically just didnt want you to think that you could just Import the Cards and be able to play it like a TCG since without the Arcade Machine they are just Collectors Cards and not a TCG.

But, I CAN'T import the physical cards without the machine.(And I won't bother bringing up the anime convention as a source to find the arcade machine...) As those arcade machines in Japan are exclusively to the east. You're right that they'll only be collectible cards with it. I'm just saying this game isn't like Magic or Hearthstone.

I have little hope Bamco would update this game with an expansion to add the new content from the latest arcade version in Japan.

You do realize you could buy the Physical Cards and Import them with having to by the Arcade Machine right? Nothing is stopping this besides the Cost to do so. I just wanted to make sure you did not think you could play a normal TCG with just the Cards. No reason to get so upset when I was just trying to make sure you didnt spend a bunch of money on something that you could not use.

As for Updating this Game, I already explained that is pretty much impossible in my first Post. The stuff after what is in the game use a new Engine. All the Assets used in this game are just Ported over from the Arcade Engine, its why we got so many Free Updates. If they were to include anything after they would have to make it from scratch and charge for it. This game did not sell well enough that they would be willing to spend money and resources on such a gamble.

The best bet we have is hoping that like they did with this game they make another at the end of the current Arcades Engines life cycle to try and milk a bit more cash off of it. Even then it doesnt look good due to the low popularity of it outside of Japan.

[[ODT]Piccolo]

I still need the machine to play the arcade version right? So physical cards are difficult to import in the US unless there's a SDBH machine in anime conventions or some Japanese Collectable shop.(Which I have one at my mall, but they don't have an import SDBH arcade machine) For the record I'm not upset. As a calm person myself, there's a serious lack of a growing arcade scene over here due to the arcade scene dying out with online gaming on consoles/PC. I doubt there'll ever be a way for me to get a SDBH arcade machine which can deposit physical cards to play the game.

Updating World Mission: Then we're better off with a completely new SDBH game for next gen consoles/PC............=/ This game is 4 years old now on Steam and the DBH series is celebrating the 12th anniversary on it's official website in Japan.

[nobalkain]

Yeah you still need the Machine. I was just trying to make sure you understood that you needed it and didnt think it was just a TCG that you could play without it as long as you bought the Cards. I just wanted to save you the money in doing so if you were not aware, thats all.

If they ever do make another Non Arcade version of it again then I doubt we will see one until they are almost ready to release the next Engine in the Arcades as a way to get some more money out of the old one. Its why they made this one after all. Why not make a few more bucks off the old engine before scrapping it. Plus I am sure they were testing the waters to see if they could get interest outside of Japan so they could export the Arcade Version, much cheaper to do it this way. It didnt go well though so the odds of it happening are not that good. The whole Quick Time Events thing is just not really that popular. I hate it myself, but I love just about anything Dragon Ball.

I totally understand the Arcades issue. Pretty much all the Arcade were I lived at the time died out over 20 years ago. All that was left was places like Daves and Busters, and they only really had Claw Games and Giant Screen Mobil Games. Nothing like the Arcades of my youth. I miss the days of putting a Quarter on the Cabinet of Street Fighter 2 to wait in line for my fight. Online gaming can never simulate that feeling.

[Elijah of Worldbuilding]

Originally posted by Queen HawlSera:

Originally posted by Elijah of Worldbuilding:

next game probably. it also probably won't be released to the west/english translated.

Why not, didn't this game do well enough?

no microtransactions. thus it 'failed' compared to MTG or FGO or Shadowverse. let alone other DBZ TCCG properities like the one in Kakarot.

[Ultra instinct Martin]

hollo i also value on nue updates new graphics
and Dragon Ball Super and One Piece Film Gold: DB Heroes Mission 9 ultra instinct for cac and all the other cards for dragonball heros