Not another poker game with real money!

[VaeliusNoctu]

Hello,

I think it's a pity that it is again a poker game with Store in which one can buy not only Cosmetic Items Optional, but for real money also chips.

Would be nice to see a poker game in which you get along without real money stake for chips. There the fun stops for me, I do not want to take any real money from anyone. I also do not want to lose real money on a poker game if I just want to play for fun and do not want to gamble.

I certainly do not want to help anyone become addicted. Or even become addicted to gambling.

I play poker with friends from time to time just for fun. It's fun and nobody loses anything. Why is not that possible in a computer game? I mean Online with other Players.


Greetz

VN

[Dukagar]

I dont know man, i would like to see an option where i can sell chests on my Steam account.

[prognostic]

Hi VN,

We understand your sentiments, but keep in mind that HD Poker in no way requires you to spend money.

That said, like many games out there today, we are a free to play game that is community supported. Quite literally, your purchases in the game go to support HD Poker and the continued development to bring you fresh and unique content.

Further, one of the trickiest things about a game such as ours is making the game fun whilst you are playing with free chips. While we offer many ways of collecting Gems and Chips (achievements, chests, rewards, mega wheel, etc.), we must maintain a solid economy, because otherwise you get into "All-In Poker" scenarios where people just all in and the game is no longer fun. Our Poker Skill Rating system is modeled as close as possible around true skill, if we simply "gave it away" it would literally break the system.

Regarding Chests, we will likely integrate with Steam Marketplace down the road, just no announced date as of yet.

Thanks for the feedback!


Regards,
-z4-prognostic

[VaeliusNoctu]

Thanks for the answer. Your intentions may be good. But as soon as real money is involved, (for chips) it's just gambling. I do not like it. But everyone has to decide for themselves if he wants to support something like that.

[Dylan]

Originally posted by VaeliusNoctu:

Thanks for the answer. Your intentions may be good. But as soon as real money is involved, (for chips) it's just gambling. I do not like it. But everyone has to decide for themselves if he wants to support something like that.

But you are missing the point where no poker game that has 0 economy is any fun.

When there's no stakes at all, people will just go all-in everytime and it takes the fun out of a serious poker game.

[cannon9009]

Just because you can purchase currency with real money does not make it gambling. You can earn credits without actually having to pay. Theres a 4 hour bonus you can receive that will give you free chips. If you go bankrupt, it's your fault for being too big on your bets. Next time don't spend money on chips if they do little to nothing anyway aside from gameplay.

[cannon9009]

Originally posted by 80,154.65:

Originally posted by Laharl-Chan:

Just because you can purchase currency with real money does not make it gambling. You can earn credits without actually having to pay. Theres a 4 hour bonus you can receive that will give you free chips. If you go bankrupt, it's your fault for being too big on your bets. Next time don't spend money on chips if they do little to nothing anyway aside from gameplay.

its still gambling and should be illegal as long as real money for chips it shouldnt be allowed on platforms like steam , origin etc as more kids can get access easily

... Don't you need to be 13 or older to have a Steam account?

[VaeliusNoctu]

Originally posted by 80,154.65:

Originally posted by Laharl-Chan:

... Don't you need to be 13 or older to have a Steam account?

so you are saying 13 years and older can gamble online with potential real money?

I fully agree with you. As soon as real money chips are required, even if there are other ways to get them, it is gambling and should be forbidden.

And yes, a thirteen year old should not be allowed to play real money poker games when even grown-up addicts can become.

[cannon9009]

Originally posted by 80,154.65:

Originally posted by Laharl-Chan:

... Don't you need to be 13 or older to have a Steam account?

so you are saying 13 years and older can gamble online with potential real money?

No, but I am saying that a "kid" under 13 wouldn't be able to gamble.

Originally posted by VaeliusNoctu:

Originally posted by 80,154.65:

so you are saying 13 years and older can gamble online with potential real money?

I fully agree with you. As soon as real money chips are required, even if there are other ways to get them, it is gambling and should be forbidden.

And yes, a thirteen year old should not be allowed to play real money poker games when even grown-up addicts can become.

Let me make this a bit clearer for you.

GAMBLING IS NOT GAMBLING IF THE CURRENCY WON DOES NOT HAVE ANY MONETARY VALUE.

[VaeliusNoctu]

You buy chips for real money. So these chips are money since they were bought with real money. So it has a monetary value. Simple logic!

In the same way, you also exchange Euros in US dollars. The currency in the game are chips that you can exchange for Euro or US dollars to play Poker.

[cannon9009]

Originally posted by VaeliusNoctu:

You buy chips for real money. So these chips are money since they were bought with real money. So it has a monetary value. Simple logic!

In the same way, you also exchange Euros in US dollars. The currency in the game are chips that you can exchange for Euro or US dollars to play Poker.

You can't exchange the chips back into real money. Once you pay for those chips, they stay chips. The chips don't do anything else besides let you play at better tables since you have more chips on hand.

[VaeliusNoctu]

Its Gambling Example here (lootboxes)

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43906306

And thats not the Only Land that say its Gambling. Buying poker chips is exactly the same. Just that you do not pay for additional content, but that you can continue playing or playing better.

[cannon9009]

Originally posted by VaeliusNoctu:

Its Gambling Example here (lootboxes)

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43906306

And thats not the Only Land that say its Gambling. Buying poker chips is exactly the same. Just that you do not pay for additional content, but that you can continue playing or playing better.

Lootboxes and Poker Chips are two completely different things, but I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to tell that because you won't listen to anything I'm saying. I'm done with this conversation, you can keep thinking what you're thinking, but I won't stop anyone from calling you a dumbass. Bye.

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[VaeliusNoctu]

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[cannon9009]

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