Cheaters (even here)

[Ninon De Lanklo]

Two days ago was playing random game(there were 6 players). It was second (!) round. Player A rolled dice, made a suggestion, and than immediately made accusation, witch was wrong of course. And than next player B after him did the same thing but he made right accusations. As far as I understand they were playing together and the first one told the right cards (that were shown to him after his accusation) to the second one.

So can we have a least possibility to report these players who are and for sure will spoil all the fun just to gain a few points on the leaderbord.

[aenor]

it would be hard to report, as you won't be able to prove they were playing together. it can also be that it was just a coincidence and seen the previous accusation made someone quite sure about the correct one... anyway, if that was the case, if they were indeed playing together, it's so sad to learn there are such miserable players around.

[Ninon De Lanklo]

Originally posted by aenor:

it can also be that it was just a coincidence and seen the previous accusation made someone quite sure about the correct one...

The first suggestiong and than accusation and second suggestion and accusation were totally different. And it was barrely beginning of the game. So I'm pretty sure they were playing together.

[BridgetFisher]

an option to block players from being in the queue would be useful in these situations.

Maybe some kind of rating feature, simple thumbs up or down that could be used to enhance matchmaking.

[aenor]

Originally posted by Ninon De Lanklo:

Originally posted by aenor:

it can also be that it was just a coincidence and seen the previous accusation made someone quite sure about the correct one...

The first suggestiong and than accusation and second suggestion and accusation were totally different. And it was barrely beginning of the game. So I'm pretty sure they were playing together.

ok well, then yes, likely they were in the same room lol

[Typi the Golden-eyed]

Was the suggestion already right? Or only the accusation?

You shouldn't underestimate the chance of a lucky guess.
The chance of a right accusation at the very first turn is 1 to 215 at worst to 1 to 161 at best (in a game of 6); depending on the cards in the hand.
And this chance only improves with every bit of information.

The chance, of this being a coincidence, is hidden in your emphasized statement "It was second (!) round."
If they were planning to do this: why did they played the first round?
It, apparently, still was suspicious enough for you to call them out as cheaters, and when this seems obvious anyway, there wouldn't be any reason or difference for them to wait until the second round.
Just writing...it might be so, it might be so, who knows.

[LoonyLoser17]

I don't know if it's possible to do this, as I'm no expert on coding. What might be nice for the devs to add, at least for multiplayer games, is if an accusation is wrong then no cards from the solution are shown to the player making the wrong accusation after the one that's incorrect.

It's not a perfect answer as if they know the who and the what, but are wrong about the where then they'd still see all 3 cards.

[Ninon De Lanklo]

Originally posted by LoonyLoser17:

It's not a perfect answer as if they know the who and the what, but are wrong about the where then they'd still see all 3 cards.

Actually it's a good solution, IMHO.

Originally posted by Typi the Golden-eyed:

If they were planning to do this: why did they played the first round?

Maybe I wrote it wrong (English is not my mother language) - not round but turn. So they first time got to trow the dice and after that - did what they did...

[Typi the Golden-eyed]

LoonyLoser17s solution shouldn't be a problem. Then a person who doesn't solve the case would just see, what the others player see during an accusation: only the back of the cards.

From my personal opinion, just removing the leaderboard would be an even better solution.
Then people would do this for trolling occasionally but...*sigh...who am I fooling?
A game like Clue need to have a leaderboard; what a time to be alive.

Originally posted by Ninon De Lanklo:

Maybe I wrote it wrong (English is not my mother language) - not round but turn. So they first time got to trow the dice and after that - did what they did... :lunar2019deadpanpig:

Ah, okay...then there's little doubt, that you're right.

[El-DoX]

Originally posted by aenor:

it would be hard to report, as you won't be able to prove they were playing together.

if one person have the mobile version and own 2 or 3 devices, he create a online game and play simultaneously using all the devices. or own a steam copy, create a game and using other devices with the free cluesheet companion app. you can do nothing to catch this kind of "cheater". even using the IP address because he can play using his mobile data plan.

[halfmonkey]

Are you sure it wasn't that the other players had quit? Players who drop out are replaced by AI, which tends to quickly make false accusations. I'd guess this is to prevent the game from taking longer by eliminating those turns.

[JazzyFek3000]

I've had the same thing happen twice recently. At first I thought it was some form of hacking but as the OP points out it is two players playing together (or the same person on phone app and computer) one wrong guess by player one, sees the cards, tells player two who proceeds to win the game next go.

It is ridiculously needless to cheat at online Cluedo but it would be nice if some kind of fix was introduced whereby if you're wrong you're NOT shown the answer.

[alligator bait]

Honestly If you don’t win on turn 3. You’ve lost the game. Round 2 is when people should be guessing cause the game is too easy to read into if you understand the percentages. Most my games end on turn 2 or 3 cause that’s just how aggressive we have to play to win. Bold guesses win games.

[applemaster2007]

i don't cheat,but i did win a game against easy cpus in 5 turns

[kj winston]

I look to try to win in 4 rounds, the 5th round I usually get to watch another player win....Sob

[Spaz]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥slayer69:

Honestly If you don’t win on turn 3. You’ve lost the game. Round 2 is when people should be guessing cause the game is too easy to read into if you understand the percentages. Most my games end on turn 2 or 3 cause that’s just how aggressive we have to play to win. Bold guesses win games.

I hate to say it, but he is right. Typically you cannot really expect a 6 person match to go beyond 3 rounds. It does happen - but it's not the typical progression. Generally speaking, by the end of round 2, People start with accusations.

In Clue, the 5th or 6th roll position are the two best to be in. You receive the largest amount of clues PRIOR to your turn so by time round two comes along you have nearly double the clues player 1 or 2 have. It's not uncommon to see player's 3 and 4 in panic mode making hasty accusations. That's just how the game works. Essentially, I have rarely played any 6 player matches that made it past the 3rd round.