How do you get past floor 16?

[David Goggins]

I mean, I went to floor 16 with a ton of heals, 100% armor durability and 2 weapons at 100%.

I killed Jin Die decently easy but had to heal once or twice.
17th floor is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ massive had to kill like 30 enemies and no elevator.
18th floor I find the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with the claws which are super OP their block completely nullifies damage and they 1 hit killed me. Used death metal, managed to run away only to find another claw machine dude further away which also 1 shot me.

I love it, how am I supposed to progress when stuff 1 shot me and there are no elevators.

Clothes can't last for more than 2 floors, by the time I get to 18th my clothes are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ destroyed.

[iExiiT[GER]]

whats your fighters lvl ? are your masterys lvld up ? do you have 2* gear ? this is a game where you need to grind, its not like you can rush from floor 1-30 without work between ... except your crazy like me and some others who cash in XD

[[CGN] T]

Please dont tell me you reached floor 16 with T1 Fighters LUL .. if yes fcking respect, but you need to create new ones (you should have T3 fighters unlocked by now)

[David Goggins]

Originally posted by iExiiT:

whats your fighters lvl ? are your masterys lvld up ? do you have 2* gear ? this is a game where you need to grind, its not like you can rush from floor 1-30 without work between ... except your crazy like me and some others who cash in XD

Was running with a 3* lvl 42 fighter maxed hp, str & almost maxed VIT so the difference isn't much since luk and dex don't matter as I'm only melee.

I was using 2* weapons but 1* armor at +4 or something.

The issue isn't the armor not tanking, the issue is that its durability its gone by the time I reach floor 18 and I don't even know if the elevator is on the 18th or 19th.

[David Goggins]

Originally posted by Timo:

Please dont tell me you reached floor 16 with T1 Fighters LUL .. if yes fcking respect, but you need to create new ones (you should have T3 fighters unlocked by now)

Nah hahaha that would be almost impossible only 300 hp for t1 fighters

[iExiiT[GER]]

why dont you buy 2 sets of armor than ?

[David Goggins]

Originally posted by iExiiT:

why dont you buy 2 sets of armor than ?

oh wow thats actually really smart lol
Only downside is the limited 20 inventory space so would only have like 9 free spots but I'll give it a try

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1 thing that is really important!! try step up with your dodge and block game mah dude, at some point of the game you need to dodge and block otherwise u gonna get destroyed.

[Raymar]

Originally posted by ✪ SteelHard:

The issue isn't the armor not tanking, the issue is that its durability its gone by the time I reach floor 18 and I don't even know if the elevator is on the 18th or 19th.

The most obvious tip: check the tower layout map and find which escalator (You won't miss them, they are colored) leads to central area of the upcoming floor. The main elevator should be in that area.

[iExiiT[GER]]

Originally posted by ✪ SteelHard:

Originally posted by iExiiT:

why dont you buy 2 sets of armor than ?

oh wow thats actually really smart lol
Only downside is the limited 20 inventory space so would only have like 9 free spots but I'll give it a try

i mean you jsut want to progress right now, you still go back later to farm so you shouldnt worrie about the space :D

Floor 19 will have a Elev. also f20,21,23,25

[David Goggins]

Originally posted by Timo:

1 thing that is really important!! try step up with your dodge and block game mah dude, at some point of the game you need to dodge and block otherwise u gonna get destroyed.

I never block but I do dodge a lot.

What's the point of blocking if u can dodge?

[David Goggins]

Originally posted by Raymar:

Originally posted by ✪ SteelHard:

The issue isn't the armor not tanking, the issue is that its durability its gone by the time I reach floor 18 and I don't even know if the elevator is on the 18th or 19th.

The most obvious tip: check the tower layout map and find which escalator (You won't miss them, they are colored) leads to central area of the upcoming floor. The main elevator should be in that area.

is there a way to check the layout besides using the elevator and switching view?

[Lipucd]

Originally posted by ✪ SteelHard:

Originally posted by Timo:

1 thing that is really important!! try step up with your dodge and block game mah dude, at some point of the game you need to dodge and block otherwise u gonna get destroyed.

I never block but I do dodge a lot.

What's the point of blocking if u can dodge?

Bwecause 'perfect blocking' is a thing, that nulls any damage you would take, makes the opponet reel back, and gives them extra stagger so you can do a finisher on them easier in turn. Learning the timing for perfect blocking will make a lot of things far easier. But there's a few things about this I'm sure is catching you off guard:

-You need to be using Slashing and puncture/range defensive armor for floors 11-20. -MOST- of the D.O.D armor is acually WEAK towards both, and depending on your armor, you could be upwards to -20% towards slashing, leading to a TON of OHKO situations from the claw bots, and far worse from snipers. I'd almost recommend checking your armor's type defenses, and stack up as much slashing resistance as you can, while doing your best to keep an eye out for range attacks, as the armor that best reisist that isn't till after the second Don.

-You also gotta just accept that some runs is going to be you bypassing a ton of would be great loot to pick up. Blueprints are vital, and should be tried to hold onto if it's a '??????' one by all accounts, but you should really be using your scouter's for floor exploration and climbing, given they tend to have high health, and all of those inventory slots to haul stuff back to base and to ensure you've got shrooms as 'the key towards your success'. Otherwise if you feel better climbing with like a Defender or something, you're just going to bite the bullet and accept that you're going to fill your gear slots before you even start climbing.

-Make use of mushrooms and decals. Got deathshrooms? Slap on a poison eater decal and when you see a group, toss one into it and then run on in to make them breath in the fumes while you start recovering and tanking. If you're already past floor 11, farm decoyshrooms and make GOOD use of those. Even if the foe -sees- you, they will attack that first, and if you cook em before using them, they even have more health! At that stage bombshrooms already are too weak to be very useful, but there's the new eletroshrooms you should be making good use of for free 500-ish damage depending on the armor your foes are wearing ( and in the case of the bots, extra damage! ). Also those damage resistance 50% mushrooms are VERY vital. Go back towards the early floors and farm those if you find yourself still taking too much damage, and just SWALLOW them all down at once after getting off the elevator, as mushroom timers STACK. If it says 45 second, each one ADDS another 45 seconds towards the timer, so stuffing 8 of them is a solid 6 minutes of talking half damage.

Also one last thing, hit the key to see your map, while in your waiting room. This brings up both the normal map (on the left) AND the elevator map (on the right). On a PS4/XB1 controller, it's down on the D-Pad when not near anything to interact with it.

[LogicalBeast]

Definitely sounds like an armor issue, you'll definitely need at least 2* armor just to avoid being one shotted unless you know all the attack animations of every enemy. I was running 3* armor by the time I hit floor 20 on the PS4 version but I did farm a lot, 2* should be OK. Speaking of which, here's how I deal with each attack the spinning claw robot (Bone Tubers they're called):

- his homing dash is ALWAYS followed by 2 close range attacks. Be prepared to dodge roll/dash out of range and then counter if you have a fast hitting weapon like Machete, Iron etc
- his spinning aerial claw move I just run backwards and then rush him as SOON as he lands
- his rolling one isn't too bad to dodge just back away and then hit him while he's recovering

If you have a Flame Wand that's a CLEAN counter to his "invulnerability" block, as it doesn't block fire damage. ;) If it doesn't 1 shot him them 2-3 plus the damage over time will finish him off.

A few final tips:
- Which class of fighter you're using? For tankiness you'll want to use Collector and Defender, as they have the most HP in the game out of all the classes, but All Rounder 3* is also pretty decent HP wise. If you're going Striker/Attacker etc that's fine, just bear in mind you have less HP for more atk power so you gotta be on point with your dodges, more so than Collector and Defender.

- you do not have to kill EVERY enemy, only those who are in your way. This will help you preserve your armor's durability especially when it's low. Also leaving "one alive" means that you won't get Jackals for that floor as long as the enemy lives, best one for those are the Scratch Tubers (the tall claw bots) as they're slow af

- Struggling in a 1v2 or worse? Friendly fire is a thing in the tower, ABUSE it. You can make the AI kill each other by timing your dodges/dashes so they cluster close to each other and make them hurt each other. :D Sadly FF doesn't work in TDM though i.e. raids, but CC (Crowd Control) effects still work though i.e. knockdowns from Kamas rage move, stun from Iron's rage move and so on.

- Raymar's tip is correct, I dunno if you're using controller or keyboard, but on PS4 controller press Down to bring up the Area/Floor Map (on keyboard press M), look at where the coloured lines (escalators) lead to. If they converge towards the centre then you've got an elevator coming up! But after 18th floor you're home free anyway elevator wise. (Y)

[iExiiT[GER]]

Originally posted by Lipucd:

-You need to be using Slashing and puncture/range defensive armor for floors 11-20. -MOST- of the D.O.D armor is acually WEAK towards both, and depending on your armor, you could be upwards to -20% towards slashing, leading to a TON of OHKO situations from the claw bots, and far worse from snipers. I'd almost recommend checking your armor's type defenses, and stack up as much slashing resistance as you can, while doing your best to keep an eye out for range attacks, as the armor that best reisist that isn't till after the second Don.

i thought -% is like you get less dmg from specific types :O so it has to be +% for better resitance ? no wonder than i had to cash that much in for revives at some points when i picked the extra weak armor XD

[Lipucd]

Originally posted by iExiiT:

Originally posted by Lipucd:

-You need to be using Slashing and puncture/range defensive armor for floors 11-20. -MOST- of the D.O.D armor is acually WEAK towards both, and depending on your armor, you could be upwards to -20% towards slashing, leading to a TON of OHKO situations from the claw bots, and far worse from snipers. I'd almost recommend checking your armor's type defenses, and stack up as much slashing resistance as you can, while doing your best to keep an eye out for range attacks, as the armor that best reisist that isn't till after the second Don.

i thought -% is like you get less dmg from specific types :O so it has to be +% for better resitance ? no wonder than i had to cash that much in for revives at some points when i picked the extra weak armor XD

Yeah, stuff like that and other things is why I'm working on a guide right now, as there's a very big...LACK of guides ATM and I think there's a lot of easy misconceptions till you're dead after spending all your death metals on revives, instead of more invetory space...