Game Over on the daughter mission

[DeKAT]

Hello,

i have a little bit of a problem and that's by the mission where you are supposed to save your daughter form someone who want s to blow up your house to kill your daughter. (you get that when you accendentely kill the boy who calls you about a gas leak in a appantement building and you let him go up the stairs to warn everybody)

But it seems there is no way in saving her cuz you'll always fall in that same conversation over and over agin even you try other routes. maybe some one who have passed that who can helop me cuz i don't know what to do to save her. i tried mulityplr ways but no success

please if someone know's what to do let me know

[DeKAT]

引用自 Valerie：

Same here. I sent 2 units while he was on the line with me but still managed to shoot. A bit disappointing as I had 6 officiers there.....

yes that's right i had a swat van going to him and they arrived but theyt did nothing when they were there they still managed to get stuck in the snow (it was winter in my game) even tho they were standing still

[Terri Markichood]

This section just frustrating. There is really an attempt to link player to the protagonist, but in reality we really don't care the operator family. We just wanted to play as operator and perform his duty. We really don't care other thing.

[Rephath]

I just try to be as calm and apologetic as I can and that seems to do the trick. I don't argue, I don't blame him, I just sympathize and try to talk him down. (I also never promised to quit). That always seem to work for me.

But I do feel like stalling him long enough for the police to show up and shoot him should be a valid option. Maybe that's just the American in me.

[SUPER-TANK]

引用自 DeKAT：

引用自 Су-47𝔹𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕦𝕥：

Don't know why but I kept telling him don't go up before but after that the angry father still blame me… I thought that's another boy before I see your post?…

yes appenrently you need to save the boy by telling him to go out the building and let the sister die??? i mean what would be different if you let the siister die and the boy doesn't. yes you saved the boys life yes he wouldn't been alone now cuz he still has his son but not the sister zo i don't get it but okay ig

Alright, there's just SO much confusion with a simple incident. I'll clarify a few things:
The death of Michael Miller and many others in the gas explosion incident is inevitable.
Regardless of the operator's instructions, he will always rush into the building, with his phone still on, as you can hear him trying to evacuate people on his way up.As we all know,
calling someone in a gas station risks an explosion due to fuel vapors, this applies here also, which the retired fireman didn't tell him (well it's probably been ages since he last handled an explosion anyway). Had he waited until the firefighters (who are obviously on-duty and are highly vigilant against potential threats) actually arrived, they would have sorted this incident out and it'd end as a regular carbon monoxide poisoning or whatever. In that case, the firemen and the medics could save everyone.
In 911 operator, there's a call where a factory owner begs you to not send police in return for a bribe and if you accept you'll get a huge reputation penalty, essentially forcing you to restart the duty. From the summary you'll discover that all emergency calls are actually documented (at least for some time), so unless the authorities decide to wipe the records every month or so the angry fireman could have just checked with the dispatch center and learn your decision.Unfortunately since it is not possible for a decision to affect future calls the devs simply made the unavoidable explosion's cause obscure so the fireman can always get an excuse to seek revenge.
All you have to do is to calm the angry fireman down. Then offer to send an ambulance instead of the cops after the location has been specified. Dispatch some armed police units to arrest him. Under no circumstances should you agitate him since he'll just destroy the gas tank and kill everyone.

[Mamut10002]

Well you need to try i tryd it 3 times and at the end i succesd. You just need to try and try to help him

[WarpedPerspectiv]

引用自 Rephath：

I just try to be as calm and apologetic as I can and that seems to do the trick. I don't argue, I don't blame him, I just sympathize and try to talk him down. (I also never promised to quit). That always seem to work for me.

But I do feel like stalling him long enough for the police to show up and shoot him should be a valid option. Maybe that's just the American in me.

Yeah this is what I did too. You just have to choose the empathetic choices.

[Daemon]

引用自 SUPER-TANK：

引用自 DeKAT：

yes appenrently you need to save the boy by telling him to go out the building and let the sister die??? i mean what would be different if you let the siister die and the boy doesn't. yes you saved the boys life yes he wouldn't been alone now cuz he still has his son but not the sister zo i don't get it but okay ig

Alright, there's just SO much confusion with a simple incident. I'll clarify a few things:
The death of Michael Miller and many others in the gas explosion incident is inevitable.
Regardless of the operator's instructions, he will always rush into the building, with his phone still on, as you can hear him trying to evacuate people on his way up.As we all know,
calling someone in a gas station risks an explosion due to fuel vapors, this applies here also, which the retired fireman didn't tell him (well it's probably been ages since he last handled an explosion anyway). Had he waited until the firefighters (who are obviously on-duty and are highly vigilant against potential threats) actually arrived, they would have sorted this incident out and it'd end as a regular carbon monoxide poisoning or whatever. In that case, the firemen and the medics could save everyone.
In 911 operator, there's a call where a factory owner begs you to not send police in return for a bribe and if you accept you'll get a huge reputation penalty, essentially forcing you to restart the duty. From the summary you'll discover that all emergency calls are actually documented (at least for some time), so unless the authorities decide to wipe the records every month or so the angry fireman could have just checked with the dispatch center and learn your decision.Unfortunately since it is not possible for a decision to affect future calls the devs simply made the unavoidable explosion's cause obscure so the fireman can always get an excuse to seek revenge.
All you have to do is to calm the angry fireman down. Then offer to send an ambulance instead of the cops after the location has been specified. Dispatch some armed police units to arrest him. Under no circumstances should you agitate him since he'll just destroy the gas tank and kill everyone.

Sooo... if I end the call prematurely, will the outcome be different?

[badfluffy]

Yeah I can tell you one thing the devs for this game are not and that's psychologists.
Some of the dialog choices during calls are downright dumb and could trigger just anyone.
The "campaign" story dialog in 911 was pretty bad too but this one takes the damn cake.

[SUPER-TANK]

引用自 Daemon：

引用自 SUPER-TANK：

Alright, there's just SO much confusion with a simple incident. I'll clarify a few things:
The death of Michael Miller and many others in the gas explosion incident is inevitable.
Regardless of the operator's instructions, he will always rush into the building, with his phone still on, as you can hear him trying to evacuate people on his way up.As we all know,
calling someone in a gas station risks an explosion due to fuel vapors, this applies here also, which the retired fireman didn't tell him (well it's probably been ages since he last handled an explosion anyway). Had he waited until the firefighters (who are obviously on-duty and are highly vigilant against potential threats) actually arrived, they would have sorted this incident out and it'd end as a regular carbon monoxide poisoning or whatever. In that case, the firemen and the medics could save everyone.
In 911 operator, there's a call where a factory owner begs you to not send police in return for a bribe and if you accept you'll get a huge reputation penalty, essentially forcing you to restart the duty. From the summary you'll discover that all emergency calls are actually documented (at least for some time), so unless the authorities decide to wipe the records every month or so the angry fireman could have just checked with the dispatch center and learn your decision.Unfortunately since it is not possible for a decision to affect future calls the devs simply made the unavoidable explosion's cause obscure so the fireman can always get an excuse to seek revenge.
All you have to do is to calm the angry fireman down. Then offer to send an ambulance instead of the cops after the location has been specified. Dispatch some armed police units to arrest him. Under no circumstances should you agitate him since he'll just destroy the gas tank and kill everyone.

Sooo... if I end the call prematurely, will the outcome be different?

Just tested, you can't end the call prematurely.

[SUPER-TANK]

引用自 badfluffy：

Yeah I can tell you one thing the devs for this game are not and that's psychologists.
Some of the dialog choices during calls are downright dumb and could trigger just anyone.
The "campaign" story dialog in 911 was pretty bad too but this one takes the damn cake.

More importantly, how the heck did this angry firefighter learn the operator was behind the incident? Or the canonical choice is that the operator sent his son in? Most of all, though, did he really knew how gas explosions worked?

[Aurano]

引用自 dr_zampolit：

I got it...get to the part and say "I quit" then "let me send help" and then "send ambulance"

Dumb, to win you must negotiate with a terrorist

This saved me alott of time , Thanks!