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Vent Dec 20, 2018 @ 7:38pm
Game still has Denuvo?
Wondering because I wont buy it if it still has one.
Last edited by Vent; Jan 30, 2019 @ 4:06am
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Originally posted by Ëvïlnïck8 ゴゴゴ:
Alright game is cracked, pirates are playing it now.
I can see why they want it in, and seems to have worked fine enough witch I am happy with.

But will Sega remove Denovu that is now pointless and litterly making the product worse for the paying customers?
I would be realy positively suprised if they did.
So if we now compare the pirated version, and the official paid version, price aside, the pirated version is actuely better then the official paid version and the paid version will become 100% unplayeble if Sega does not remove it at some point.

And I would realy like to play VC4 in 10 years or so and rather not pirate it since the Steam version has become unplayeble cause of Denovu.


I do realy hope Sega will pull out the cracked Denovu from this game but I highly doupt it.


EDIT: I am not trying to justify pirating it, I am just stating the facts. The game will be fine for the next few years but I worry what happens if Sega ignores the isseu. While I realy dislike Denovu I rather buy a great game with Denovu rather then no great game at all since the higher-ups will be blaming low sales on everything other then their Denovu.
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PFC Demigo [29th ID] Dec 20, 2018 @ 8:59pm 
Still has.
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Vent Dec 21, 2018 @ 12:52am 
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
Still has.
Disappointed.
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gigamelon1981 Dec 21, 2018 @ 3:15am 
I just realised, but what is bad about Denuvo?
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Vent Dec 21, 2018 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by gigamelon1981:
I just realised, but what is bad about Denuvo?

https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io/
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gigamelon1981 Dec 21, 2018 @ 7:25am 
I see, thanks
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SenMithrarin85 Dec 21, 2018 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by Vent:
Originally posted by gigamelon1981:
I just realised, but what is bad about Denuvo?

https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io/

most of that is false

1) denuvo does not require an "always online connection" and never has
2) plenty of denuvo titles work on linux via proton
3) payment issues is the fault of the customer and/or steam to begin with

4) And as for steam games being bound to steam and thus an account...how is that denuvo's fault? ALL of your games will be gone if valve ever went tits up. You don't own ANY of them, "denuvo ridden" or otherwise

5) playable backups is essentially a means of passing the data on to others or torrent sites. Its a no-brainer

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gigamelon1981 Dec 21, 2018 @ 5:25pm 
Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:
Originally posted by Vent:

https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io/

most of that is false

1) denuvo does not require an "always online connection" and never has
2) plenty of denuvo titles work on linux via proton
3) payment issues is the fault of the customer and/or steam to begin with

4) And as for steam games being bound to steam and thus an account...how is that denuvo's fault? ALL of your games will be gone if valve ever went tits up. You don't own ANY of them, "denuvo ridden" or otherwise

5) playable backups is essentially a means of passing the data on to others or torrent sites. Its a no-brainer

Thanks for the follow up.
I did try to play VC4 at offline mode, it works.
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PFC Demigo [29th ID] Dec 21, 2018 @ 5:31pm 
At least it can be played Offline. Unlike God Eater.
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Alex Dec 22, 2018 @ 8:49pm 
"You can't make playable back-ups of your games. This isn't helping the consumer." Is it possible to enable the creation of playable backups without enabling piracy?
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Aringon Dec 22, 2018 @ 11:00pm 
Originally posted by Alex:
"You can't make playable back-ups of your games. This isn't helping the consumer." Is it possible to enable the creation of playable backups without enabling piracy?

Not really, no. Piracy isn't that large an issue in the first place. If there's a game that I wish to support, I buy it, sometimes buying multiple copies as gifts. I wouldn't pirate something unless I have no other recourse. Publishers just need to do a better job of getting their products to people in an honest and fair way. It's a very small amount of the population that wants to steal everything, atempting to justify their actions no matter the amount of mental gymnastics they have to do.

There is no way you can indentify one consumer over another accurately and without potential for error. Everything can be stolen, phone numbers, email and etc. nothing is sacred.
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Jeffer'son Airship Dec 23, 2018 @ 1:08am 
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
At least it can be played Offline. Unlike God Eater.

They really messed up God Eater because both game executables are using the same Denuvo license.
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PFC Demigo [29th ID] Dec 23, 2018 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by Moki:
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
At least it can be played Offline. Unlike God Eater.

They really messed up God Eater because both game executables are using the same Denuvo license.

You should see my God Eater Review.
They so called Europe PR Forum Manager is highly Censorship to Denuvo and Bans anyone talking about it. Hell my Thread was connected to their Customer Support and I clearly Tagged it. It was 50 Pages and guess what, he downright Deleted the Entire Thread.
https://store.steampowered.com/recommended/recommendgame/438490
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Gabi Dec 23, 2018 @ 1:15am 
Originally posted by gigamelon1981:
Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:

most of that is false

1) denuvo does not require an "always online connection" and never has
2) plenty of denuvo titles work on linux via proton
3) payment issues is the fault of the customer and/or steam to begin with

4) And as for steam games being bound to steam and thus an account...how is that denuvo's fault? ALL of your games will be gone if valve ever went tits up. You don't own ANY of them, "denuvo ridden" or otherwise

5) playable backups is essentially a means of passing the data on to others or torrent sites. Its a no-brainer

Thanks for the follow up.
I did try to play VC4 at offline mode, it works.

It will to a point, which is when it decides you have to check back in. This can be for any number of reasons, and if for any reason that server can't be contacted (for example your interent is down, or ina few years they decide it isn't in there financial interest to let you keep playing games you have paid for) then you will be unable to play this single player game you have paid for.

Denuvo is horrible and no consumer should be in favor of it.
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Jeffer'son Airship Dec 23, 2018 @ 1:22am 
Originally posted by ♋️LunarCainEX🐶:
Originally posted by Moki:

They really messed up God Eater because both game executables are using the same Denuvo license.

You should see my God Eater Review.
They so called Europe PR Forum Manager is highly Censorship to Denuvo and Bans anyone talking about it. Hell my Thread was connected to their Customer Support and I clearly Tagged it. It was 50 Pages and guess what, he downright Deleted the Entire Thread.
https://store.steampowered.com/recommended/recommendgame/438490

Iirc there were a couple full on trolls attacking everyone who said they could tolerate Denuvo before the game came out (one is the creator of that dubious github page) which caused a crazy crackdown on discussing it at all over there.

It's still awful and means they're likely never going to fix it.
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BloodyPork Dec 23, 2018 @ 9:24am 
Denuvo and still not cracked.

GOTTA LOVE THE PIRATE TEARS!
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