Can we talk about how unbalanced this game is?

[thomasegoode]

They really need to do some balancing with this game. The power jump from one tier to the next is insane; any lower lever tier plane gets shredded nearly instantly by a plane of a higher tier. And dont get me started in the XP-** series of planes.

Make is so that matches are only between the same tier of players.

[sawwe]

A paid add-on per battle might cost something around 1 Euro . This must have an impact on the balance .

[HULT]

this is a common thing accross wargaming games world of tanks has similar issue

[sawwe]

How about this WOT 250-150fps WOW 100-37fps with 0 fps option zero control , zero control after shooting down 3 planes , first in sector bombs blocked ....

[logicsuicide]

I was very unhappy flying the early fighters bc I was oneshotted. But that's not the fault of the gameplay. I am a risky pilot, so I need more hitpoints. My first multi-role fighter is the one I love to fly! Very happy now.

When you got the feeling being shot every time, try to fight more near your allies, not so near to heavy aircraft or only against the bots. So essentially have a tactic (was used in real wars, too).

And learn about yourself. What style you prefer and go in the tech tree in this direction (I think UDSSR has an early widespread range to try yourself out).

[thomasegoode]

Originally posted by logicsuicide:

I was very unhappy flying the early fighters bc I was oneshotted. But that's not the fault of the gameplay. I am a risky pilot, so I need more hitpoints. My first multi-role fighter is the one I love to fly! Very happy now.

When you got the feeling being shot every time, try to fight more near your allies, not so near to heavy aircraft or only against the bots. So essentially have a tactic (was used in real wars, too).

And learn about yourself. What style you prefer and go in the tech tree in this direction (I think UDSSR has an early widespread range to try yourself out).

Thats all well and good advice, but what im talking about is how a Tier 4 fighter going against a Tier 3 fighter obliterates the Tier 3 in about 2-3 hits. Thats the balancing issue that im talking about, there should only be tiers fighting each other of the same tier.

Also, its ridiculous that bombers get shredded by any tier up or down from their tier and their turret gunners do next to nothing for damage to the enemy that is attacking you.

[Lion Prometheus]

Originally posted by thomasegoode:

Originally posted by logicsuicide:

I was very unhappy flying the early fighters bc I was oneshotted. But that's not the fault of the gameplay. I am a risky pilot, so I need more hitpoints. My first multi-role fighter is the one I love to fly! Very happy now.

When you got the feeling being shot every time, try to fight more near your allies, not so near to heavy aircraft or only against the bots. So essentially have a tactic (was used in real wars, too).

And learn about yourself. What style you prefer and go in the tech tree in this direction (I think UDSSR has an early widespread range to try yourself out).

Thats all well and good advice, but what im talking about is how a Tier 4 fighter going against a Tier 3 fighter obliterates the Tier 3 in about 2-3 hits. Thats the balancing issue that im talking about, there should only be tiers fighting each other of the same tier.

Also, its ridiculous that bombers get shredded by any tier up or down from their tier and their turret gunners do next to nothing for damage to the enemy that is attacking you.

Yea, this match making system is beyond broken, but also the premium planes are twice as better than the normal aircrafts from their respective tier, just check their stats, this is pay to play and if you are playing against someone with one tier above your plane and is premium then the game is lost, and unfortunately it happens too frequent

[WiseOdin]

Yeah, I just ran into this like a brick wall today. Four hours playing the game and I'm in a tier II, 55% pilot. Cool. I guess I have to grind out like thirty matches just to get my pilot trained. I had a couple matches, upgraded my guns and engine and everything, and unlocked the next plane. Then I turned the crew to take all the XP so I could get the pilot trained and earn a skill.

I get tiered up to tier III. Crap. I'm in a fighter, I maneuver behind a heavy. I get my guns going. I see them hitting, I hear they're hitting. I've got him. His health bar is barely dropping. He turns, I keep my guns on him. Finally he's at 25% health and my guns overheat.

you're telling me my guns don't have the power to take down an aircraft a tier above me before OVERHEATING?

It turns into a fishbowl, another enemy, also a tier above me, dives on me. I pull up to meet him and close the gap quick so he doesn't have an eternity to fire at me. I move around and keep him from getting too many good shots at me but a couple lucky rounds and I'm toast.

He gets me a couple more times with his better guns, better diving speed, better turning, and better skin.

Cool. This game is an absolute joke. I'm not going to pay to compete. And I'm not going to play for free just so they can uptier me and hand easy wins over to their wallet warrior babies. The next guy that makes the mistake of downloading this hot trash can lose to the wallet warriors so World of Warplanes can stroke their payer base.

[HULT]

Originally posted by WiseOdin:

Yeah, I just ran into this like a brick wall today. Four hours playing the game and I'm in a tier II, 55% pilot. Cool. I guess I have to grind out like thirty matches just to get my pilot trained. I had a couple matches, upgraded my guns and engine and everything, and unlocked the next plane. Then I turned the crew to take all the XP so I could get the pilot trained and earn a skill.

I get tiered up to tier III. Crap. I'm in a fighter, I maneuver behind a heavy. I get my guns going. I see them hitting, I hear they're hitting. I've got him. His health bar is barely dropping. He turns, I keep my guns on him. Finally he's at 25% health and my guns overheat.

you're telling me my guns don't have the power to take down an aircraft a tier above me before OVERHEATING?

It turns into a fishbowl, another enemy, also a tier above me, dives on me. I pull up to meet him and close the gap quick so he doesn't have an eternity to fire at me. I move around and keep him from getting too many good shots at me but a couple lucky rounds and I'm toast.

He gets me a couple more times with his better guns, better diving speed, better turning, and better skin.

Cool. This game is an absolute joke. I'm not going to pay to compete. And I'm not going to play for free just so they can uptier me and hand easy wins over to their wallet warrior babies. The next guy that makes the mistake of downloading this hot trash can lose to the wallet warriors so World of Warplanes can stroke their payer base.

skill issue if you think you can upbeat a higher tier plane one on one with it being a decent player then you must be nuts. the idea is not fighting higher tiers alone. this game is not meant to be played acting like rambo.

[sawwe]

skill issue if you think you can upbeat a higher tier plane one on one with it being a decent player then you must be nuts. the idea is not fighting higher tiers alone. this game is not meant to be played acting like rambo. [/quote]



You usually fly a plane a level below . You are not Rambo . Just statistics and points for players with a wallet . Mince chop after salvo a level higher .

[WiseOdin]

Originally posted by HULT:

skill issue if you think you can upbeat a higher tier plane one on one with it being a decent player then you must be nuts. the idea is not fighting higher tiers alone. this game is not meant to be played acting like rambo.

Yeah it's not a skill issue when you're surrounded by enemies a level higher than you. When you see a guy showing you his tail and you have a firing solution, you move in and take it. There's zero reason my guns would overheat before I could take him out. I wasn't missing shots. The power scale and balancing is just screwy. If it's impossibe, as you're admitting when you say, "you must be nuts," even with a textbook perfect engagement scenario, then my fighter should not have been placed in the same game. That's a complete balancing fail.

I'm not playing alone by choice, I'm playing alone because the servers are empty and World of Warplanes is throwing me into uptiered matches with my untrained pilots flying my tier II craft and nothing but bots on my team.

Sure, I COULD talk my friends into devoting a few hours a week into picking up this game with me. So we could.. All be screwed together? I like my friends too much for that. Sure, we're the kind of friends to put hot sauce in each other's contraceptives, but i'm not going to ask them to suffer through Warplanes with me. Some things are too cruel to even put friends through.


And yeah, I was using F2 and F4 to try and call friendly bots to focus on specific zones, and to focus on the played enemies. Didn't help. The bots are so trash, I'd probably be able to take them down even when the horrible balancing has made it, by your words, "nuts," to attempt against a live player.

[RFGCRebelAlpha]

Originally posted by WiseOdin:

Originally posted by HULT:

skill issue if you think you can upbeat a higher tier plane one on one with it being a decent player then you must be nuts. the idea is not fighting higher tiers alone. this game is not meant to be played acting like rambo.

Yeah it's not a skill issue when you're surrounded by enemies a level higher than you. When you see a guy showing you his tail and you have a firing solution, you move in and take it. There's zero reason my guns would overheat before I could take him out. I wasn't missing shots. The power scale and balancing is just screwy. If it's impossibe, as you're admitting when you say, "you must be nuts," even with a textbook perfect engagement scenario, then my fighter should not have been placed in the same game. That's a complete balancing fail.

I'm not playing alone by choice, I'm playing alone because the servers are empty and World of Warplanes is throwing me into uptiered matches with my untrained pilots flying my tier II craft and nothing but bots on my team.

Sure, I COULD talk my friends into devoting a few hours a week into picking up this game with me. So we could.. All be screwed together? I like my friends too much for that. Sure, we're the kind of friends to put hot sauce in each other's contraceptives, but i'm not going to ask them to suffer through Warplanes with me. Some things are too cruel to even put friends through.


And yeah, I was using F2 and F4 to try and call friendly bots to focus on specific zones, and to focus on the played enemies. Didn't help. The bots are so trash, I'd probably be able to take them down even when the horrible balancing has made it, by your words, "nuts," to attempt against a live player.

Live Service games in general rig matchmaking. That's just what they do to encourage microtransactions.

[sawwe]

Originally posted by RFGCRebelAlpha:

Originally posted by WiseOdin:

Yeah it's not a skill issue when you're surrounded by enemies a level higher than you. When you see a guy showing you his tail and you have a firing solution, you move in and take it. There's zero reason my guns would overheat before I could take him out. I wasn't missing shots. The power scale and balancing is just screwy. If it's impossibe, as you're admitting when you say, "you must be nuts," even with a textbook perfect engagement scenario, then my fighter should not have been placed in the same game. That's a complete balancing fail.

I'm not playing alone by choice, I'm playing alone because the servers are empty and World of Warplanes is throwing me into uptiered matches with my untrained pilots flying my tier II craft and nothing but bots on my team.

Sure, I COULD talk my friends into devoting a few hours a week into picking up this game with me. So we could.. All be screwed together? I like my friends too much for that. Sure, we're the kind of friends to put hot sauce in each other's contraceptives, but i'm not going to ask them to suffer through Warplanes with me. Some things are too cruel to even put friends through.


And yeah, I was using F2 and F4 to try and call friendly bots to focus on specific zones, and to focus on the played enemies. Didn't help. The bots are so trash, I'd probably be able to take them down even when the horrible balancing has made it, by your words, "nuts," to attempt against a live player.

Live Service games in general rig matchmaking. That's just what they do to encourage microtransactions.

Live Service games in general rig matchmaking. That's just what they do to encourage microtransactions.
WG mission to score 1,0000 personal points = Zadem of the players did not exceed the threshold of 9,000 personal points ????

[Tigerland67]

I had World of War tank and for the reason I really felt this was a pay to win. I uninstalled it. I started to not install the Warship either because of this. Be after almost a year, I have not seen where there is only powering ships. I am now installing this game. I wanted to jump in and fly, but I am not going to spend hard money only to be shot down time and time again. Some of these folks this is "all: they do all day is play this. I'm not that person. I have a life. So we will see. I have the delete button close by.

[WiseOdin]

Originally posted by Tigerland67:

I had World of War tank and for the reason I really felt this was a pay to win. I uninstalled it. I started to not install the Warship either because of this. Be after almost a year, I have not seen where there is only powering ships. I am now installing this game. I wanted to jump in and fly, but I am not going to spend hard money only to be shot down time and time again. Some of these folks this is "all: they do all day is play this. I'm not that person. I have a life. So we will see. I have the delete button close by.

Free game, go ahead and try it. I found WoT Blitz was pay to win, and so is Warplanes. Warships I never really got into, and Tanks (original) I'm not going to try after the rest of these were so bad.

I'll probably pick up Ace and just play a game made for gamers.

[ぬえ◯ w ◯]

Originally posted by Tigerland67:

I had World of War tank and for the reason I really felt this was a pay to win. I uninstalled it. I started to not install the Warship either because of this. Be after almost a year, I have not seen where there is only powering ships. I am now installing this game. I wanted to jump in and fly, but I am not going to spend hard money only to be shot down time and time again. Some of these folks this is "all: they do all day is play this. I'm not that person. I have a life. So we will see. I have the delete button close by.

There are no pay to win planes in tier 9 and 10 (if you can even make it that far). All the p2w planes you see now were given out free for grinding events (of course you have to pay for it now because you missed out). You will be missing some pilots and equipment that were given out for free that might be considered pay to win now.

P2W planes aren't really a problem outside of tier 8. If you are starting now then it's more like you are new and have no modules and equipment having to fight veteran opponents with fully equipped planes.

If you tried war thunder and sucked there then you'll suck here too