Storm Castle and you can't save at all not even at the damn Vampire Temple!

[strangecat]

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why in the world did you make someone go through all that and you can't even save then you make creatures that can't even be killed. well they killed me I went through all that for nothing.

I am playing on Normal you know Normal. You can't change that during the game.
F####CK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DavidBVal]

Vampires can be avoided for the most part using side passages, and you can make them vulnerable and kill them:

https://www.exiledkingdoms.com/wiki/index.php?title=Call_of_the_Blood

[strangecat]

but I have to find these fountains. Man that so tough I played so long only to die and ...
I took step back to do other quests.

You could give large Companies a run for their money on quests and writing.

I got bored of Pillars of Eternity II but i am still playing your game. Even with the dying and having to start over I continue to come back to it.

Love your art work for characters that's so well done. The music I turned it off.
I have been playing RPGs since Ultima 1.

Also your character quests are really well done!
Could have been little more though if say you had three characters in a party and they responded to things.

Thanks for the link! I will use that page when I am stuck.

[strangecat]

this game is to Grindy though. I am on level 22 it will take forever to reach 23 and that doesn't even add enough points to do anything.

[c452h82]

i am 35 hours in now on normal and because of the grind i decided to edit my save file to max out my traits and increase my money to 999999 gold. Even now with all the expensive armor and all traits on max i burn through my health potions. I will finish this game but without the editing it would surely take me 80 hours or more to finish it.

[strangecat]

and I am on 80 hours. I haven' t grinded that much but I am starting too! I just beat the Abby quest.
Pretty amazing game though. Not looking forward to going back to that Storm Castle where you can't save from the Castle to the Dungeon....

[DavidBVal]

The game system is scaled through 20 levels. The fact leveling past 20 is so slow is intentional, originally the level was capped at 20 but the cap was replaced by a "soft cap", i.e, slower leveling.

Doing most of the game quests and exploring most areas without grinding will take you roughly to level 21, enough to beat the ending, and there's little reason to go beyond 22-23, so there's actually no reason to grind. If you find yourself depending excessively on potions maybe you need to revise your character build, because potions are meant for emergencies, "epic" areas and boss fights, not part of the game "economy".

[strangecat]

I don't use to many potions. But I only have 4 intelligence and that needs to be higher I think for something?
Of course That Storm Castle is going to make me use a lot of potions!
I did redoo my guy I thought that was very smart of you to put that in.
Now I want to see returning characters meet up again like the Bank Robbing chick.
I am level 21 and I have fought some pretty tough battles.
That Red Dragon kicked MY ### and Zombie Dragon...man!

I have only found six pieces of the Mirror so far too. I still have quests to do.

[strangecat]

Originally posted by DavidBVal:

The game system is scaled through 20 levels. The fact leveling past 20 is so slow is intentional, originally the level was capped at 20 but the cap was replaced by a "soft cap", i.e, slower leveling.

Doing most of the game quests and exploring most areas without grinding will take you roughly to level 21, enough to beat the ending, and there's little reason to go beyond 22-23, so there's actually no reason to grind. If you find yourself depending excessively on potions maybe you need to revise your character build, because potions are meant for emergencies, "epic" areas and boss fights, not part of the game "economy".

No way that's BS I am on level 22 and fighting things in Icemist whatever it's called in the sewers that are level 21 and wooping my butt. Also greater Dark Presence thing. And that Zombie Dragon. Those things kill my guy even with all the armor etc. I haven't really grinded in this game and yea you need to go beyond level 22 because you would only have 40 some points which isn't enough to max out skills.
what's the point of having wards if you can't even max them out.

[DavidBVal]

The Sewer of Horrors and a few big bosses hidden thorough the world are meant as optional challenges, that you can defeat by using the right tactics and gear including resist potions, etc, not by gaining more levels. You could grind for years to level 30 and still die to the zombie dragon, but a simple youtube search shows people killing it at level 20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Vfl1Ir7zI

It's a hard battle, but tt doesn't block any essential quest, nor bars you from exploring the world, it is simply an optional challenge.

This happens often in this game. Remember the first goblin firedancer in the mine? Some people grind up to level 6 to beat him, others buy a fire resist potion and equip other resist gear and take him out at level 3-4. The first one may find the game grindy, but it really isn't.

[DavidBVal]

Also, the main quest last areas provides a huge leap in terms of gear, without that you'll find some of these "epic" challenges nearly impossible.

If you are having trouble from getting shards, remember you can get them too from random rumor bosses. Gossip at the inn.

[strangecat]

Originally posted by DavidBVal:

Also, the main quest last areas provides a huge leap in terms of gear, without that you'll find some of these "epic" challenges nearly impossible.

If you are having trouble from getting shards, remember you can get them too from random rumor bosses. Gossip at the inn.

as long as your game doesn't have a time limit I am fine.
I am getting the red keys to open the doors key number 4 was worthless.

I got beat by those damn giant stone things trying to kill their king.
Zombie Dragon is tough.
I am at level 22 and still have quests to do.
Fought some horror psycho Minotar and he gave me no shards.

[Shindragan]

Thanks for making this game fun, David

[strangecat]

fought some more monsters and got some shards.

[strangecat]

Originally posted by Shindragan:

Thanks for making this game fun, David

game is really impressive I am almost at 90 hours!

[strangecat]

did I say that it absolutely sucks you can't save in rooms! I mean Dragon Cave from hell can't save is getting old.

did anyone beat this game on normal?