Best cultivator?

[Althered]

I have a bottleneck. My 2 harvesters are pretty quick and my seeder is fast too. The cultivator is only 1 tractor width whilst the seeder is 3 times wider, so 3 times quicker. Don`t want to spend more on another tool so what do others use?

[SeaDog]

Don't plant crops that need to be cultivated until you can afford a wide enough cultivator and a tractor to pull it. Or, cultivate in the Autumn instead of the Spring.

[PhuglyPhishingPharmer]

There are planters you can use that do not require cultivation prior to use. Look around in the store under planters or seeders. Some can spread fertilizer as well. Double bonus.

[bplus410]

As Phugly stated it's much more efficient to use a seeder that cultivates (or no till). If you're doing planter crops (corn, suns or beets) or like to do contract work there are typically only 2 options I use.

If going on a budget the Zunhammer 8.3M width located in the slurry tab is a good option. It says it only requires 100hp, I've found 150 to pull it much better & it will likely require a front weight unless using a beefy med or large tractor.

If budget isn't a concern the 16M Lemken is a great option. It requires 100 hp less than the cultivators with a comparable working width.

[Usedfireball]

Plenty of no-till options for seeders, less for planters (have to use mods, which if you are on a console might be slim pickings.) Not sure why Giants didn't make more planters no-till capable (The Great Plains one comes to mind, I know it can no-till IRL)

[Althered]

Tanks for your replies. Still a bit confused because the seeder/cultivators available won`t work with corn, maybe I will change crop. Also, thanks bplus410 but the equipment you mentioned cannot be found at the shop. Are they DLC, Mods? Thanks

[Ferrus]

Originally posted by Althered:

Also, thanks bplus410 but the equipment you mentioned cannot be found at the shop. Are they DLC, Mods? Thanks

Cant speak for the Zunhammer one, not really sure which one he's referring to. The Lemken one is a disc harrow, you can find it in the disk section

[bplus410]

Originally posted by SIR Ferrus:

Originally posted by Althered:

Also, thanks bplus410 but the equipment you mentioned cannot be found at the shop. Are they DLC, Mods? Thanks

Cant speak for the Zunhammer one, not really sure which one he's referring to. The Lemken one is a disc harrow, you can find it in the disk section

Thank you SIR Ferrus for helping out before I got a chance to clarify : )

I'm sorry for not mentioning it was a disc, instead of a cultivator. The suggestions are both vanilla.

A bit more about the Lemken...it has worked ok with a few of the large tractors on the smaller side of the scale, i.e. NH T7 (top engine option), Deutz (also top engine option/336 hp) etc.. they tend to start a little slower than if using the recommended 400 hp but get up to working speed fairly quickly. Another option is the semis with a pto (both non-lizard brands) pull it fine too. I prefer the Tatra brand it's more stable pulling equip at high speed than the Man.

The Zunhammer (in slurry tab) will require a 3 point hitch. You wont be able to utilize semis with the pto, without the 3 point adapter. The Zunhammer is a good option in early game for planter crops. It's inexpensive to lease for a couple harvests until the larger disc can be purchased. If you plan to have pigs or cows you can add the tanker & is a good way to utilize slurry, by cultivating & fert in one pass.

If you have plowing turned on & plan on sticking with corn you may want to consider the 8M subsoiler. The Tatra semi mentioned earlier pulls it just fine.

If you use mods the Great Plains planter is available from modhub with a no till option.
As Usedfireball mentioned it is capable of no till IRL (if immersion is a concern). I agree it's a little disappointing Giants didn't implement more not till options in the base game. Most of the larger scale farmers in my neck of the woods are largely no till & don't even own a plow any more. The options provided aren't really up to par with modern methods commonly used & it seems Giants vanilla it trying to anchor us back to 2009.

[Ferrus]

Originally posted by bplus410:

I agree it's a little disappointing Giants didn't implement more not till options in the base game. Most of the larger scale farmers in my neck of the woods are largely no till & don't even own a plough any more. The options provided aren't really up to par with modern methods commonly used & it seems Giants vanilla it trying to anchor us back to 2009.

This is all dependent on where you live. If you're state side, no-till planters are pretty common. If you live in europe, no-till planters are a rarity. After doing a bit of research, those that are offered are either from other manufactures that are not in-game (Giants would need a licence to include them) or exist as a after market kit either by the manufacturer or a third party manufacturer (Again, another licence would be required). However that's not to say brands like Horsch, Vaderstad or Lemken don't offer no-till planers as standard, I just wasn't able to find any examples.

[bplus410]

Originally posted by SIR Ferrus:

Originally posted by bplus410:

I agree it's a little disappointing Giants didn't implement more not till options in the base game. Most of the larger scale farmers in my neck of the woods are largely no till & don't even own a plough any more. The options provided aren't really up to par with modern methods commonly used & it seems Giants vanilla it trying to anchor us back to 2009.

This is all dependent on where you live. If you're state side, no-till planters are pretty common. If you live in europe, no-till planters are a rarity. After doing a bit of research, those that are offered are either from other manufactures that are not in-game (Giants would need a licence to include them) or exist as a after market kit either by the manufacturer or a third party manufacturer (Again, another licence would be required). However that's not to say brands like Horsch, Vaderstad or Lemken don't offer no-till planers as standard, I just wasn't able to find any examples.

A few valid points there! I live in the states (eastern side of the midwest) & didn't realize no till is rare in EU.

On the flip side most of the farmers in the surrounding counties have no till corn planters, JD seems most common. Great plains planters are much less common here (I suspect they're more common on the western side of the MW), both manufactures are offered in game. I suppose in short, the previous post was relaying a bit of disappointment that not a single no till planter is offered in vanilla.

I appreciate your input!
Noticed it changed plow to plough. Is "plough" how it's spelled in EU or something?

[Ferrus]

Originally posted by bplus410:

Noticed it changed plow to plough. Is "plough" how it's spelled in EU or something?

Plough is the British spelling. I just changed it because plow bugs me

[Usedfireball]

Originally posted by bplus410:

Originally posted by SIR Ferrus:

This is all dependent on where you live. If you're state side, no-till planters are pretty common. If you live in europe, no-till planters are a rarity. After doing a bit of research, those that are offered are either from other manufactures that are not in-game (Giants would need a licence to include them) or exist as a after market kit either by the manufacturer or a third party manufacturer (Again, another licence would be required). However that's not to say brands like Horsch, Vaderstad or Lemken don't offer no-till planers as standard, I just wasn't able to find any examples.

A few valid points there! I live in the states (eastern side of the midwest) & didn't realize no till is rare in EU.

On the flip side most of the farmers in the surrounding counties have no till corn planters, JD seems most common. Great plains planters are much less common here (I suspect they're more common on the western side of the MW), both manufactures are offered in game. I suppose in short, the previous post was relaying a bit of disappointment that not a single no till planter is offered in vanilla.

I appreciate your input!
Noticed it changed plow to plough. Is "plough" how it's spelled in EU or something?

Even where I am though no-till is rare, however the planter I own is actually a JD one designed for it. (Bought it used, from another state) I have no-till planted with it and it does a good job, oddly enough because of the heavier downforce springs it actually tries to push the row units down too far in soft tilled soil. (Yes they can be adjusted, but the lowest actual setting that has spring force on it is more than most planters have around here have for each row.)

No-till is becoming more common in certain parts of Europe, and I would not be surprised if it becomes even more common over the coming years. The bad part about tillage is increased soil erosion, and may be one thing European governments are going to look into.