Vehicle value in the red

[bigjock85]

On the vehicle overview page is there a disadvantage to having equipment that’s in the red value (the shopping basket column). If you’ve had a tractor from new (£200k) and it’s now only worth (£24k) it’s not like it’s worth trading it in for a newer model. Is it going to need maintenance more often?

[JPSGT40]

Tractors turn red in the list once they've clocked 25 work hours. I would expect the same happens for all vehicles. I don't know if the same happens for equipment (headers, plows, etc.). I believe the red is just to notify you that the "trade in" value of the vehicle has now plumetted, just in case you were considering reselling it.

>>> Is it going to need maintenance more often?

We don't know yet. Gamers are monitoring this and trying to determine if this is the case. Would be better if Giants just came out and told us already.

Here's a thread already about these questions:
What Happens If you don't repair equipment?

[UnableRogue]

I've noticed if you don't repair the square baler then you cannot bale at the same speed. it makes you go slower.

[OriginalGrubby]

Took me a minute to figure that out last night, combine was going like 3 mph, didn't realize it was pretty much broke down.

[JPSGT40]

Here is my original post on this issue (Bug reported the day after release, but still no word from Giants):
BUG: tractor weights get worn and need maintenance

PhasmaNL figured out his seeder was losing over 30% productivity/speed regardless of the good condition of the tractor pulling it. I later repeated his testing with a different seeder and a cultivator and had results that matched his findings: you lose approximately 1/3 (one third) of the equipment's rated operating speed even if the tractor pulling it is fully repaired.

Leading up to the release of FS19 Giants did an entire week of pre-release live streams where they disseminated information and answered questions. Several times throughout the week they stated that tractors (vehicles) would lose horsepower if you didn't keep up with regular maintenance. At one point the guy was adamant that tractors/vehicles were the only things that get a mechanical drawback for lack of maintenance and the rest was just cosmetic (worn paint, scratches, etc.). Well, that turned out to be wrong; in fact, it's been proven wrong several times. Yes, tractors do lose some horsepower over time, but there's clearly more to it than just that.

So, this has all caused a lot of head-scratching and questions. Since what was said in the livestream was wrong, what else did they fail to tell us, or were otherwise wrong about, regarding the new maintenance/repair game mechanic?

When a trailer gets worn down what impact does that have (aside from the visual graphics changes)? And a tractor weight getting worn out and needing maintenance??? That can't really be a thing, can it? Has to be some kind of bug. I understand they need to track usage hours (wear and tear) on all equipment so they can use that number to regulate how much visual "aging" to show on each piece of equipment. But there is more going on than just that.

I'd like to know what types of equipment suffer drawbacks from lack of maintenance and in what ways those drawbacks manifest themselves. I'd also like to know which types of equipment we can safely ignore repairs for (if any). On the vehicle status menu screen I think it would be better if for those items they showed the maintenance/repair % as "N/A" rather than show 37% (e.g.) if it's actually irrelivent.


Sorry my bad English, I'm an American.

[UnableRogue]

LMAO JPSGT40. x'D

I have found from personal experience that the square baler with 3/4 health drops your speed 2km/h. Normal work speed is 20 but I could only go 18. Not sure what that is in mph. The rate of decay is pretty fast too. Only 2 working hours at that stage.

They need to let us see what condition the tools are in instead of only finding out when we take it to the garage.

EDIT: I was wrong. It was 2 working days not 2 hours.

[Silky Rough]

Originally posted by JPSGT40:

Sorry my bad English, I'm an American.

Good Lord! I cracked up...

[bigjock85]

Thanks for the replies but I think my point was missed understood. I’m happy with the vehicle maintenance and the effect it has, I also discovered the issue with the square baler when using the baby fasttrac and it struggling on the slightest hill. Since buying the bigger fasttrac it’s not really an issue so I think they need to tweak the effect weight has when on a hill or something?

Now if the vehicles resale value also effects the performance of the vehicle/equipment then that’s another issue. For example Can a tractor with say 50hrs on it at 100% vehicle maintenance never match the performance of a brand new tractor (which would be realistic as engines do lose performance over time) that would suggest keeping a vehicle/equipment forever and hoping it stays the same isn’t a good idea.

[rhino350wynn]

I personally would prefer that age was tracked with maintenance as far as hp and value is concerned. Even a good older tractor that has been well maintained will suffer hp losses as it ages.

[bigjock85]

Im not against such a thing but it would be good to see in the garage page or something that the vehicle is effected by some losses due to age. Same could also be said for maintenance effects as well.

[Bromstine]

So did we ever get more info on this? Like, official info from GIANTS?

[the.lovewyrm]

I think it just means that the tractor/vehicle will be sold at a bigger loss versus the buy price.

But you probably made so much money using the tractor/vehicle that that difference is made up for manifold.

You probably made a massive profit if you sold it at the red and rebought it new.

After all, to have racked up so many working hours, it's very likely that you made money with the equipment.