When do you use a spray weeder vs other weeder?

[Imortalin]

I would like to know why the regular weeder isn't removing weeds but when I purchased the sprayer it removed. Why doesn't the regular one work?

[Keb]

Regular weeder is only for when the weeds are "lvl1", which you can only tell visually, they are short on height, lvl2 weeds are tall and have "flowers" on it aswell, which only works with the sprayer herbicide.

[Obiwan]

apart from herbicide should be able to be use proactively. and there is lots of proof that weeds are not working as intended since they can grow in a freshly plowed field with no seeding whatsoever.

We have turned them off on our server.

[Sigmund]

like Keb said, the Weeder does not remove fully grown weeds. Only when they are small. It doesn't cost anything to use, so it's cheap.

With a Herbcide sprayer you can kill weeds at any growth stage, either if they are small or big. It uses up herbicide though.


If you can only have one, then get a weed sprayer.

[Alshain]

Originally posted by Obiwan:

apart from herbicide should be able to be use proactively. and there is lots of proof that weeds are not working as intended since they can grow in a freshly plowed field with no seeding whatsoever.

We have turned them off on our server.

Why would that be wrong? You don't seed weeds. They grow in plowed soil in the real world.

Your saying you want them to remove realistic simulation?

Real farmers don't seed right after cultivation and weeds do crop up, that's why there is actually a weeder/sower combo tool in game.

[Mysticalmaid]

Like the others have said, use the weeder for when the field is in a low growth stage, spray for higher, but remember once the crop is ready to harvest (first stage of yellow) you can't get rid of the weeds.

[Ydyp]

Originally posted by Alshain:

Originally posted by Obiwan:

apart from herbicide should be able to be use proactively. and there is lots of proof that weeds are not working as intended since they can grow in a freshly plowed field with no seeding whatsoever.

We have turned them off on our server.

Why would that be wrong? You don't seed weeds. They grow in plowed soil in the real world.

Your saying you want them to remove realistic simulation?

Real farmers don't seed right after cultivation and weeds do crop up, that's why there is actually a weeder/sower combo tool in game.

Not when they popup fully gorwn after you just plowed the field, that is not normal. Or they suddenly popup mid harvest destroying your yield without anything you can do about it.

[margalus]

Originally posted by Ydyp:

Originally posted by Alshain:

Why would that be wrong? You don't seed weeds. They grow in plowed soil in the real world.

Your saying you want them to remove realistic simulation?

Real farmers don't seed right after cultivation and weeds do crop up, that's why there is actually a weeder/sower combo tool in game.

Not when they popup fully gorwn after you just plowed the field, that is not normal. Or they suddenly popup mid harvest destroying your yield without anything you can do about it.

It is normal, weeds can pop up anytime anywhere. They don't "destroy" your yield either, it's only reduced a small amount. And you can use herbicides when the crop is in later stages of growth.

[cwattyeso]

I'd say don't use the Weeder at all and just use a Sprayer with Herbicide because from numerous tests the Weeder seems to be somewhat broken or buggy in its use. It's supposed to remove Weeds at their first Growth Stage when they just appear on your land, however if you happen to have a Crop also planted on the field and it's in any of it's Growth Stages the Weeder will not work. So you are best off not wasting the 35K for a weeder and instead invest in the Sprayer which can kill weeds right up until a crop reaches harvest stages and also has the added bonus it can be used as a fertiliser sprayer too.

[Aesyle]

According to in-game info, weeds should work like this:
* after sowing - 0% weeds
* 1st crop growth stage - small weeds (removed by weeder or herbicide sprayer)
* 2nd crop growth stage - medium weeds (removed by weeder or herbicide sprayer)
* 3rd crop growth stage - big weeds (removed only by herbicide sprayer)
* crop ready to harvest - weeds can't be removed anymore (-20% yield of crop)

But for me, it's different:
* after sowing - 0% weeds (50% fertilized)
* 1st crop growth stage - 0% weeds (100% fertilized)
* 2nd crop growth stage - 0% weeds until almost at the end of 2nd stange.
Then, my fields instantly got 100% weed wihin 1 min in-game time (speed 1x). Also, that's not all;
For Soybeans, there's 0 visual difference and it's impossible to tell where weeds are. Had to check the menu map to see which spots on field are pink (weed) quite often when using weeder.
For Canola, weeds are much smaller green bushes than Canola which are very hard to spot, especially at night. So, checked the menu map often as well.
Other than that, weeder does what it's supposed to, removes weeds. (I used the cheapest weeder).
* 3rd crop growth stage - 0% weeds (100% fertilized)
* crop ready to harvest - 0% weeds (100% fertilized, no loss in yield)

It's annoying when i can't see where weeds are and i also don't like the instant 100% weed in 2nd stage. If weed would come in 1st stage, when crop is small, it would be much easier to spot the weeds (like in tutorial).

Tested weeds some more, with another crop cycle. This time, 100% weed coverage popped up at the same time, in the end of 2nd growth stage. Barely managed to remove weeds with widest weeder on one of my fields when crop on my both fields went into 3rd growth stage. All that in speed 1x. At that point, my 2nd field was left with 100% weed and my weeder was useless.
For now, i've disabled weeds all together until it gets fixed.

Also, different players have different issues with weeds. Some doesn't get weeds at all while weeds are enabled. Some get them at any stage of the field. I get them slightly before 3rd crop growth stage, making using the weeder pointless since only herbicide sprayer would benefit me.

[cwattyeso]

^^^ Yep that's what I'm finding too in my games, the Weeds only appear when the Crop goes to that Dark Green Colour Growth Stage the last one before it moves to the Harvest Stages and at that point the Weeders are rendered completely useless and pointless. You are then forced to use a Sprayer to remove the Weeds which brings me back to the Argument, why even bother buying and forking out for a Weeder when the Sprayer will kill Weeds at any of their Growth Stages and can also be used throughout more of your Crops Growth Stages.

If Weeders worked right through the whole Green Growth Stage of Crops on New Weeds/Just Appeared Weeds that would be so much better and efficient then having to buy a Sprayer and Herbicide.

[Machin Shin]

weeds is bugged anyway

[margalus]

Originally posted by cwattyeso:

I'd say don't use the Weeder at all and just use a Sprayer with Herbicide because from numerous tests the Weeder seems to be somewhat broken or buggy in its use. It's supposed to remove Weeds at their first Growth Stage when they just appear on your land, however if you happen to have a Crop also planted on the field and it's in any of it's Growth Stages the Weeder will not work. So you are best off not wasting the 35K for a weeder and instead invest in the Sprayer which can kill weeds right up until a crop reaches harvest stages and also has the added bonus it can be used as a fertiliser sprayer too.

The weeder isn't bugged. It can only be used during the first stages of crop growth, not weed growth.

[margalus]

Originally posted by Emain Macha:

weeds is bugged anyway

No, some people just don't understand exactly how they work.

[Oceansize]

This is one of the first questions answered by the in-game Tutorial on Weeding.

[Machin Shin]

Originally posted by margalus:

Originally posted by Emain Macha:

weeds is bugged anyway

No, some people just don't understand exactly how they work.

no you moron, its bugged for many so that its instant 100 % when harvest is ready and not there in any stages before, other weed bug is that is spreads on ai fields and never go away.