Fertilizing mechanics explained?

[Darkspear]

In other versions i have played with simplified fertilizing= 1 pass with fertilizer spreader= 100%
Just need to figure this system now, so wanted to check if i got it right.

1: harvest (plow if you had rootcrops, corn or sugarcane)

2: plant oilseed

3: cultivate/seeder combo, then you get a 30% increase

4. weeder in first stage to avoid a minus 20%

5. Fertilize twice, does it matter if you are using pellets vs manure/slurry? 2x 25%

6 If enable in menu: periodic lime and plowing.

so doing the math i should get 2x25= 50+30= 80% yield bonus

you cant get 100% yeild bonus?

[Nightwolf]

the mechanics are pretty bare bones atm so nothing is fully fleshed out

Oil seed can be added in but it has to grow like anything else more of a annoyance but +30 so its optional.

the cultivate seed combo gives no bonus so far as im aware it just saves you a step as opposed to doing it seperate.

weeding can be done in any but the harvest stage, and the weeds grow back so a sprayer with herbicide in stage 2 of plant growth tends to be best from my testing, stage 1 weeds are no different than stage 3 so long as they are dead or gone by harvest stage is all that is counted. the weeder acutally works well with small/med fields and its more cost efficient compared to a sprayer its just the largest one is tiny on huge fields so a sprayer might be a better choice on massive fields.

all fertilzier atm is counted as the same, i find it easier to use a fertilizer/seeder but thats just personal pref.

plowing has to be done everytime for root crops but it last several harvest for everything else.

lime is expensive as hell but if you want the max i usually do it before cultivating.

95% is the highest if you go by the ingame guide and assuming you did the weeding/plowing as needed

[Sigmund]

You can confirm what i'm about to say on the "Improving Yield" topic on the Help tab ingame.

Max yield now is 165% = 100% + 50% (2x25% each fertilization stage is worth 25%) +15% if spread lime when it's required, (every 3 harvests)

To fertilize you can use solid fertilizer, liquid fertilizer, manure, slurry/digestate(biogas "slurry").

You need to make 2 fertilizing passes to get the "100%" fertilizing bonus, (which is worth 50% yield). If you fertilize once, you will see Fertilizer 50% if you inspect the field, you need to do it again for 100%. (hope you don't get confused)

You can apply fertilizer immediately after harvesting a field, and again immediately after cultivating, or plowing.

To sum it up, max yield is now 165%. But, there is malus too, if you do not remove/herbicide weeds you lose 20% yield, and if you do not plow (for crops that require it) you lose 15%.

Check the "Improving Yield" section in the help tab, to confirm.

Hope it helps. :)

Edit: a very important point about weeds is, you only need to kill them ONCE if they appear during the crop growth stage. If you take care of them then, they will not reappear, except after harvest is done.

[Ruges]

To obtain a 65% yield bonu you must:
spread fertilizer twice (+25% each time)
Spread lime every 3 harvests (+15%)

And to avoid a 35% yield malus you must
remove bade weeds (other wise -20%)
Plow after corn, potatoes, sugar beets, and sugarecane (otherwise a -15%)

1 fertilize
2 plow (only if you had a rootcrop, corn or sugarcane, or if you just bought the field and it had not been plowed)
3 Cultivate (you can skip this step if your seeder also cultivates
4 plant (some seeders can also fertilize at the same time as planting)
5 Weed. You can use a weeder on the 1rst stage of growth. otherwise use a sprayer and herbiside on any of the growth stages (cannot weed once the crop reaches the harvest stage)
6 if you seeder did not have a fertilizer, you will need to apply a second stage of fertilizer which can be done anytime after planting, but before harvest.
7 harvest.

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by Sigmund:

You can apply fertilizer immediately after harvesting a field, and again immediately after cultivating, or plowing.

ive found the fert bonus like weeding counts any time, it just requires time roughly equal to a growth stage before you can reapply, so you can do it at plowing, culting, or planting and again at stage 2 or 3. the map will show light blue and dark blue for non colorblind mode

[Sigmund]

I might be greatly mistaken, but in FS19 weeding does not count towards fertilizing at all.

I know it used to in FS17, but in FS19 when you weed you simply are using a cheap method of taking care of the weeds, since it costs no herbicide. Though it can only be done when the weeds are small.

To Fertilize you have to use Solid/liquid fertilizer, slurry/digestate or manure.

Again i might be very wrong on this, but keep in mind the mechanics have change, you now only have 2 fertilization stages, and a weed mechanic completely separated.

in FS17 weeding acted as 1 fertilizing stage.

edit: maybe i totally misunderstood you :D

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by Sigmund:

I might be greatly mistaken, but in FS19 weeding does not count towards fertilizing at all.

I know it used to in FS17, but in FS19 when you weed you simply are using a cheap method of taking care of the weeds, since it costs no herbicide. Though it can only be done when the weeds are small.

To Fertilize you have to use Solid/liquid fertilizer, slurry/digestate or manure.

Again i might be very wrong on this, but keep in mind the mechanics have change, you now only have 2 fertilization stages, and a weed mechanic completely separated.

in FS17 weeding acted as 1 fertilizing stage.

edit: maybe i totally misunderstood you :D

i meant the fert and weeding can be done at any stage except harvest but yes they are two seperate things sorry for nothing being clearer :P

[Sigmund]

Yeah, my bad :) i immediately sensed i was addressing something you didn't say :D

yes, but regarding weeding, i think if you for example, take care of weeds when the field is not planted, i'm not 100% sure the weeds ill not reappear during the 4 growth stages(of your crop).

Maybe you're right though, but i'm not sure, i'm always paranoid inspecting the fields to make sure i don't lose 20% cause of those pesky weeds! >:)

When in doubt, herbicide the crap out of those fields! :D

[Ruges]

Yea ignore weeds on unplanted fields. when you plant they will be gone. And if you weed, and then plant, your still going to get weeds growing again during the growth stage.

[Nightwolf]

see i used to use the weeder on stage one plant growth and the map would say my field is weeded but then when i go to harvest theres brand new weeds in there and the map still says my field is weed free, thats confused the crap out of me. now i just use a sprayer in stage 2 and they dont have time to grow back.

[Darkspear]

i just got 50% fertilized from oilseed, should'nt that only give 30%

had a empty field
had a harvested field needing lime
plowed them together, spread lime on everything
planted oilseed with combo-tool
planted soybean with combo

if i read it right, lime dont fertilize, only avoiding minus
oilseed should give 30% according to the info.

[Sigmund]

Any fertilizing technique, including oilseed will give 25% bonus on YIELD. (aparently it's 30% for oilseed , according to the ingame helptab.)

But when you inspect the field it will say what % of fertilization you have on the field. So if you have 50% of fertilization on the field means you have 25% bonus on yield.
if you have the MAX fertilization of 100%, means you will have a bonus of 50% on yield.

The thing is question is that the % that you see on the fields relates to fertilizing total, and not the actual Bonus to Yield to the crop.

Do you understand now?

Edit: to make it even more clear. If you fertilize once, on the field it will say 50% fertilized. if you fertilize twice, on the field it will say 100% fertilized. maximum fertilization achieved. = 50% bonus to yield.

If you don't know what yield is, it's basicly, with 100% yield you get 10,000 soybeans. if you have 150% yield, you now get 15,000 soybeans.

Hope it helps.

Edit: okay you're right, on the Help tab it does say that oilseed radish gives 30% to yield. i stand corrected on that one. (though i wonder if that's a typo... a fertilizing stage worth 30%, really odd.)

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by Darkspear:

i just got 50% fertilized from oilseed, should'nt that only give 30%

had a empty field
had a harvested field needing lime
plowed them together, spread lime on everything
planted oilseed with combo-tool
planted soybean with combo

if i read it right, lime dont fertilize, only avoiding minus
oilseed should give 30% according to the info.

Lime adds +15% and yes it is not fertilizer. as for the oilseed does your seeder have a fertilizer built into it? the oilseed will add 30% to the next harvest but it does not show on the field

[Sigmund]

Well if oilseed radish does add 30% as opposed to 25%, i guess that would be a bonus to compensate people for the trouble of planting oilseed as opposed to just fertilizing.

I'll definitely want to know more about this.

[Nightwolf]

Originally posted by Sigmund:

Well if oilseed radish does add 30% as opposed to 25%, i guess that would be a bonus to compensate people for the trouble of planting oilseed as opposed to just fertilizing.

I'll definitely want to know more about this.

i think you might be mistaking oilseed as a fertilizer if i read that right

oilseed is not a fertilizer its like lime it is its own mechanic

[Sigmund]

So, the max potential yield would be 100% +50% (2xfertilizer) +15% lime +30% oilseed? = 195% max yield? as opposed to 165%? it's not what it says on the "improving yield" section on the help tab though :S

But i'm not stating that you're wrong, it could be like that.

Actually you may be right. Hmm. so if so, it would mean Oilseed is a total extra 30% on the crops yield! not bad! hmm.. Maybe it's worth it.... though it takes time to grow too hmmm....