Startup Costs Crops vs Animals vs logging?

[MythN7]

Out of the 3 which has the lowest start up cost?

if one is actually way lower is it still worth doing because of the income rate?

[magicISO Sweden]

logging fast money

[SeaDog]

Logging is my least favorite but you can sell all your starting equipment and buy the best logging stuff and make tons of cash.

[Hans]

In a vanilla game, Logging > Root Crops > Animals > Grain Crops more or less. Start up costs are honestly, outside of a large animal purchase, about the same across the board.

[SeaDog]

Originally posted by Hans Reider (ttv/JanglesJournies:

In a vanilla game, Logging > Root Crops > Animals > Grain Crops more or less. Start up costs are honestly, outside of a large animal purchase, about the same across the board.

In order of most to least amount of work. I disagree on startup costs. Buying tools to do crops is the most expensive. You can start on animals without having any fields as you can buy everything you need to feed them in the store. You can start logging with the minimum amount of money: buy a stand of trees, buy a chainsaw, buy a wood chipper, cheap tractor and trailer and start chipping. On most maps you can easily get going on logging using only the money you start with in scratch mode.

[Hans]

@Seadog,

My statement was based on income per day. As far as startup cost, yes, logging is the cheapest, but I presumed my statement also to be based on an overall idea that Time = Money, ergo, if you make 50k and it takes 10 hours I make 50k and it takes 2, I'm 500% more efficient than you. To have that efficiency with logging, you need decent equipment, imo.

Either way, long and short, anything can make money, so since you're playing a game, the whole idea is to have fun. If you aren't haven't fun there isn't much point, so do what you think you'll enjoy most, not what has the best day 1 profit return.

[MythN7]

so from many comments it sounds like logging is a great way to make money, and i have noticed this is true, but the one thing I dont like about it is the awkward ness of these arm claw things, i find the controls to be more clunky and bumbly than using a claw trying to grab one of those toys in one of those grab game things at a carnival.

But other than that, does anyone know if dragging the wood as tree limbs and various sized chunks to a lumber buyer in terms of money has a different amount than the same tree sold as wood chips?

[Hans]

Wood chips are much less money. In general, cut chunks of straight tree, 5-8m in length, and chip the small branches.

[RogDog_Gaming]

I just did this test the other day and i hade 2 trees the same height. Cut the branches off both and did wood chips with one and some the other as just cut down lengths. I got about double the price for the tree cut into lengths over the wood chips.

[MythN7]

Originally posted by Hans Reider (ttv/JanglesJournies:

Wood chips are much less money. In general, cut chunks of straight tree, 5-8m in length, and chip the small branches.

ya, today i spent a few hours trying to get used to the logging machines, I HATE the arms, cause the branch shimys around to much in the claw, and the claw seems to be able to have its grib pried open very easily on the claw types you can attach to a tractor.

The big ones are just as annoying cause the one with an arm and loading trailer is hard to load wood that is not very straight and short peices just fall out easy, and small branches seem to not really do much either in this.

The one that is like a trailer with a belt you that grinds wood chips is not so bad using its arm, but the belt pulls in wood like crap, i had to go into the options menu to have auto engine disabled so it would run when not in the seat, and i had to hold a light branch to wack the heavy ones around to get them to budge so they would feed even tho they were right on the belt.

The expensive fixed farm chipper feeds way better, but is very high up and I cant find a method of feeding that with things like the belt systems you can buy, or an object that is like a ramp you can have going right up to the intake so you can push stuff up with a skidsteer as trying to use buckets to scoop wood is harder than just cutting small backetballs and throwing it.

One thing I found that is working GREAT!!!! is the mod that has a winch, in the forestry section.

the starting tractors you get have a hard time pulling a whole tree worth of trunk and branches in 1 shot but using a much hire horse power machine makes it nice.

But I found a way to drag whole tunks and the branches to sell with this, and using auto drive with a few custom paths, im making lots of money.

not sure how much tractor repairs are gonna cost, as it seems pulling stuff that makes them have a max speed WAY!!!!!! less than its spec seems to make that wrench icon go down very fast.

Ill get a screenshot of how I setup the wood so this winch can drag quite a bit without getting stuck.

[SeaDog]

The winch sounds like a great way to get started. I'm not sure about FS19 but in FS17 you only got paid for logs up to a certain length. You didn't get any money for anything longer than that. Can't remember if it was 12 or 18 feet. There is a measurement mod available (not in-game) that allows you to manually measure the tree so you can cut it at the correct length.

[magicISO Sweden]

winch you can sownload in game modhub

[MythN7]

In the one image, i would like to know if leaving the tiny branches with leaves actually gets you more money or not selling.

but it seems to really help the collision and just view to cut them off.

If you just fast click the saw button on a handheld chain saw, it removes those twigs without actually cutting anything.

Many of the super curved branches are hard to pull threw narrow stuff so i put those on 1 winch.

going down this back alley to the barn, i found they buy wood there, but the gates to get in can be kinda fussy with trying to drag branches in, thats why i keep it tight like this, cause if you drag a whole tree over and cant get it to go threw the gate cause of a part of the tree not fitting threw, even a small leaf or twig seems to hold firm like its steel lol.

if you drive all way to the lumbermill you could prob just sell the whole tree un trimmed easily but its always so far from where i start lol, and all the twists and turns makes the auto drive not a sure bet for not getting stuck on something.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1867444062
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1867443998

but ive noticed selling a whole tree like this if its a big one usually gets me 6-11 K all the fuss getting it there tho and cutting it down takes about as much real life time as doing the whole process of the 4 starting crop plots which only seem to sell for about the same or less than 1 tree oddly.

the tractor in front pulling the small curved branches sold that load for 5700,
the other tractor with the main part of the tree got 13,500

[MythN7]

i always used to sell the little orange and white tractor you start with cause it has no front mount, and a max speed or 25.

But for things like this, ive come to like it cause it has way more horse power than many of the mid size tractors for some reason.

[MythN7]

about farming, I thought i would pass this on.
You make ALOT!!!!! more money trimming those little twigs I mentioned off.

I pulled a branch to the sale spot with all its little leaves and twigs, and solid it.
I got 1387.

I reloaded game after saving, dident move the branch at all.

But even if it says not your land, you can still trim these twigs off, you just cant cut it into actual peices.

cleaning this branch off then selling got me 2017.

I reloaded and did the leaf branch again just to confirm, and i got the 1387 again.

did it again, cleaning the leaves off a 2nd time, and again i got this better 2017 dollars.

im thinking the leaves and twigs might have a negative value, cause I dragged a whole tree without chopping any leaves off and without even triming a single branch off to the lumber mill, and the whole tree and it was a MASSIVE one, only got me 1210 dollars.

[Efraim X]

Logging is the cheapest way to start but growing crop is the fastest way to make money.
If you start a game from scratch in Ravenport you can borrow 500.000 and buy field 7 and a silo and then lease all machines.That field will generate more than 100.000 per day for just about 3 hours work.