pay 2 win

[TINZZ_1]

pay 2 win

[Paust]

It´s not p2w. You can use gold, but if you are good enough you will win without money.

[İlker Başbuğ]

Originally posted by TINZZ_1:

Any Game Like this thats not pay 2 win?

Please but PLEASE tell me if you find something like this. Otherwise Im gonna create by myself lol

[HuskyRM]

I wouldn't call that game pay to win, and there aren't many games like this out there, check for Bytro Labs website they have best rlt strategy games on browsers in the same style, but i remember when you could create private games with friends, that's what the game is missing.

[TINZZ_1]

Its Pay2Win when other people can buy units at start of game and wipe you out.

Originally posted by Paust:

It´s not p2w. You can use gold, but if you are good enough you will win without money.

[Paust]

Not really. Sometimes ppl spend money but they don´t neceassary win. And you can defnitly win without money!
The most important point :

Be active, do some timescale:

When your research is ready start a new one.
If you log in 10 h later, other players are half a step ahead. If you do this 2-3 times you won´t win because other players are several steps ahead.

You can compensate this with money but it´s very expensive to rush research
You need 2.000 Gold, ca. 1 € for a singel research step accelerated by 1/3 = full research of one step ca. 3 €.
There is a lot to research, so you need to spend a lot of money.

Know your build:

You can´t build anything, specialise and focus on what you do.
Stay on an armor, artillery, naval or air buil, newbs tend to do anything and loose.

Sure it makes a diffenence when you spend 10-20 € in the start but even then in a WW3 scenario you need good coalition members, alone you won´t win even with 50 € spending.

[icty]

There is this thing called Google. All you need to do is put RTS wargames into the search bar. Paradox has no premium currency in the games but you are going to have to buy them. That is unless you are looking for a free RTS game that only sells skins, because that does not exist.

[Frostheim]

Originally posted by Paust:

It´s not p2w. You can use gold, but if you are good enough you will win without money.

This game is like the definition of pay to win lol, you can spend money to immediately get an advantage over your opponent. It doesn't matter if you can outskill someone, you can do that in literally every game ever.

[HuskyRM]

i will disagree, it is way too much money you need to spend to be worth winning

[HuskyRM]

You can't tell me people spend $50+ in every game that you are playing

[ඞ]

Exactly, they disabl4ed private lobbies which let people play against the ai to FORCE you to spend gold or else you will lose every time you try to play because one guy has a rich credit card to pull jet planes and tanks out of his ass. and guess what? you have to grind endlessly to level up ONCE to be able to play on a different server. they know they are pay to win and they dont care.they dont even care about the community or its players more money=player! give us your rich monies and we will reward you by making you win all the time! every resource is a major part of the game and its locked behind paywalls if you want to rush it, skill doesint matter at all in this game.

[ඞ]

quote from a dev response to a negative review:
Dorado Games [developer] Posted: May 22 @ 8:56am
Hi!

CoN is predominantly a PVP game - private matches caused players to seclude themselves in private games playing solely against the AI, as a result segregating the community to the detriment of the experience.

Diplomacy and the chaotic nature of it in real life are a strong focus of CoN, no less the number of units and warfare options we offer. Single player is not the name of the game here, we leave that to the Paradox team :)

Join an alliance and the discord channels, grab a group of friends and get into a match. Your enjoyment will be amplified tenfold and cannot compare at all to single player strategy games.
yea they can, single player milsim games dont lock everything behind a paywall and take your soul to force you to grind endlessly for 52 hours just to get one plane built! they wanted to segregate themselves because the only way to exclude gold buying players is LOCKED BEHIND AN ALLIANCE ONLY FEATURE!

[ඞ]

2nd quote by the devs confirming this:
Dorado Games [developer] Posted: Apr 20 @ 10:08am
Hi!

We offer a game mode where gold is disabled :) It is exclusive to Alliances only! tldr:u have to join a clan to acess the only game mode where pay to win players arent allowed in.

[HuskyRM]

the point terminator is that
- they can't have a free game that doesn't require players to spend money as they would simply go bunkrupted
- the gold is simply not worth buying in the quantities to win the match
- if you have skill you'll win the game
- if you don't have skill you'll lose
- gold can also be won by winnig the game, so not everyone using it is buying it

[HuskyRM]

and as a game developer you want your player base to be united not divided, hence why they got rid of the lobbies, this is a pvp game and always has been

[ඞ]

the problem is when people just start buying crap with gold, its exactly like some other mobile games ported to pc, crappy buisness models and extremely blatent pay to win advertisements thrown in your face time and time again.