Demo Discussion

[Sad Panda Studios]

Hi everyone!

We're very excited to be releasing the demo for Hush Hush, which includes the first 4 days of content. We'd love to hear any feedback you have, and to learn about any bugs you run into. We'll be updating this build a few times over the coming days as we head into Steam Next Fest.

This discussion topic is meant as a place to post bugs/questions/etc regarding the demo specifically. We look forward to seeing what you think!

- Sad Panda Programmer

[luxtizer]

Is the demo available now? I don't see it on the store page.

[Sad Panda Studios]

Originally posted by luxtizer:

Is the demo available now? I don't see it on the store page.

Yes! You should be able to see a "Download Demo" button on the Steam store page. https://store.steampowered.com/app/782250/Hush_Hush__Only_Your_Love_Can_Save_Them/

- Sad Panda Programmer

[Superice]

Wow, the demo exceeded all my expectations. I didn't run into any bugs. I'm just a little disappointed I couldn't take it further with Mio :( . August 22nd cannot come soon enough. Will there be a full unlockable gallery accessible from the main or pause menu?

[Sad Panda Studios]

Originally posted by Superice:

Wow, the demo exceeded all my expectations. I didn't run into any bugs. I'm just a little disappointed I couldn't take it further with Mio :( . August 22nd cannot come soon enough. Will there be a full unlockable gallery accessible from the main or pause menu?

Thanks so much for the kind words! Yes, the gallery feature will be available from the main menu, exactly as you suggested. We may even include that in a future demo build.

- Sad Panda Programmer

[MikoKisai]

I just finished the demo, and I genuinely cannot put into words just how excited I am for the final version of this. I love it so much already.

There were a few minor things I noticed while playing the demo. Some of it might not be too easy to fix, but at least you can see if it's possible, I guess.

(Spoilers below, obviously.)

• Since I wanted to try out several lines at one point, I made frequent saves - and I then several times found myself accidentally overwriting a save when I wanted to load it. I know there's a confirmation dialog, and it probably won't be as big of an issue when I play the full thing, but it did seem a bit too easy to be in the wrong mode. Maybe separate buttons on the main UI would be better, rather than a toggle? Or maybe each slot should have its own Save and Load buttons so it's just a single, unified UI?
  
• In the phone, Mystic's name changes to "MysticHint" if you go into his conversation and back out.
  
• The font you're using appears to be missing some characters; the é in Cassie's full name and the ç in Elle's line about Françoise on her first date appear to be using a fallback font.
  
• One of the café conversations has Dimitri compare Lotus to a cactus. Lotus uses the plural form in her dialogue a few times, but it's misspelled as "cactai" (it should be "cacti").
  
• When meeting Bonnibel and Elle, Bonbon has a line "*giggle* Now you make sure you're a sweetheart to her, or I'm gonna come at ya with my wooden spoon.", which sounds very different from the others. Almost like it might not have received the same editing treatment?
  
• Some of Mystic's dialogue lines have a kind of... wobbliness to it? Like, they sound a little odd, but I'm not sure I know the right way to describe it. It sounds like it might be an editing thing, so if that's the case it's hopefully something that can be fixed. The lines in question are:
  
  • Actually I take all major credit cards.
    
  • Except Amurican Xpress. Their service fees are atrocious.
    
  • Alright, your first fortune is going to cost $1.
  There may be more like this - I didn't exhaust all of his dialogue.
  
• When meeting Cassie, her name is revealed on her very first line, even though we're not supposed to know it yet. This isn't necessarily a problem on its own, but it's inconsistent with how we're meeting Eli, Iro and Mio.
  
• Mio date:
  • One of Mio's lines contains the sentence "What with all these heavenly bodies and what not?" - that part of the line sounds very different from the rest of the line.
    
  • If you keep using your TechSavvy skills against Mio, she first says "Well, looks like someone gets a peek at my bra. (...)". Later, she has a line "(...) But not the bra. Those are expensive. Oh wait! I'm not wearing one! Haha!" - maybe I'm misreading the line, but it sounds like she was never wearing a bra to begin with?
• Day 3 gave me a purple event at the Arcade, where Mio has the line "I wish I could hang out, but I've got to replace all the tickets in the machines, and I always got to psyche myself up a bit for it." - the voice line says "psyche myself up for a bit." instead.

[luxtizer]

Yep, got it working now. Thanks! The demo was great. Great voice acting, great art, all around A+. Looking forward to the final game.

One super tiny nitpick: maybe consider a different program icon? The text is completely illegible and I can't tell what the image is supposed to be. I don't think it reads at icon size.

[Sad Panda Studios]

Originally posted by MikoKisai:

I just finished the demo, and I genuinely cannot put into words just how excited I am for the final version of this. I love it so much already.

Thanks so much for the detailed comments, and for your kind words! We're fixing several of these issues right now, and will have a new build of the ~demo later today~ (sorry - this has been delayed to tomorrow to make sure the build is well tested).

Originally posted by luxtizer:

One super tiny nitpick: maybe consider a different program icon? The text is completely illegible and I can't tell what the image is supposed to be. I don't think it reads at icon size.

Thanks for the suggestion, and we're glad to hear you enjoyed the demo! We're going to address this in a future update.

- Sad Panda Programmer

[luxtizer]

Is Quill in the demo? I've now played through twice, never ran into her.

[Puck]

I genuinely shouted when Fumi shut us down. HH grabs all that Crush Crush hilarity that I can't get enough of and cranked it up til I was cackling. I endlessly appreciate how SP embraces character development during gameplay compared to the common dating sim where you just try to bone everything. The job/skill and bonuses are a set up in such a good way that it moves the game along at a fair pace while also having the nice little buzz when extra points are earned. I'll have to make sure my schedule is cleared when the full version drops.


When meeting Iro, there's a dialogue option about Eli that uses "she". I wasn't sure if that was intentional (and I wasn't yet habitually saving/reloading to try out all the dialogue options to see if that was a social faux pas and not a typing error). I didn't play Blush Blush, but I didn't see anything in the wiki about Eli's pronouns.

There was one instance where I didn't remember reloading a prior save, but it seemed like it didn't keep my second reply to Cassie. I'll give it another play-through to see if I wasn't just so immersed that I forgot about having backtracked.

Even though the background and button panel dims when there's another pane (like the Log), the Back button is a little hard to see.

[Fireneko]

oh my god i love it and i can't wait for the full version. i love all the lil nods to Crush crush and Blush Blush, the characters and the humor. voice acting is great, the art is lovely. and i love that there's so many other characters to interact with that aren't the main 5. i love lotus and dmitri's interactions. im so excited for this

[mkopter]

really enjoyed the demo of the game and can't wait to see what the full game has in store :)

[RustyMitts2935]

So will you have to restart if you fail one of the five girls or something else, I know the objective is to save them all but is there a penalty for failing on one?

[Sad Panda Studios]

HH Demo 0.145 (demo update) has just been pushed!

This version:

-Adds in the ç character
-Removes Quit from the gameover screen
-Bumps up the position of the back/buttons on the log/save/load screens (only when in-game, not from title screen)
-Fixes Typos (for example, cacti)
-Fixes 'mystichint' from appearing if you go into PF and back out again

We're working on other bug fixes and polish items thanks to all your great feedback in this thread! Thank you everyone for trying out our demo and helping us track these issues down <3 You da best!
~Artist Panda

[Sad Panda Studios]

Originally posted by Puck:

When meeting Iro, there's a dialogue option about Eli that uses "she". I wasn't sure if that was intentional (and I wasn't yet habitually saving/reloading to try out all the dialogue options to see if that was a social faux pas and not a typing error). I didn't play Blush Blush, but I didn't see anything in the wiki about Eli's pronouns.

Hey! That's a good observation, and I'll try to help clear up the confusion. This is the very first scene with Eli, and he presents as female here. We selected to use she/her in the player's dialogue for that reason - the player can’t tell at first that Eli is non-binary. We’re careful not to have Iro use any pronouns when referring to Eli. This is meant as a harmless misinterpretation. Eli clears things up right away if the player pursues him.

[MikoKisai]

I did another pass over the new version, going for the dates I didn't get to see the first time (Cassie and Iro). Not much to add, but there's still a couple of little things I noticed this time:

• The è in Cassie's last name is still missing from the font texture. (I'd suggest checking Fumi's last name, too, since there's an ä in there, but I don't think we actually get to see it written in the demo.)
  
• Iro date:
  
  • Iro's line "Hahaha! I know I know, I don't look Japanese. I'm half Japanese! My Dad is from Osaka, and my Mom was from Oregon!" is significantly louder than her other lines.
    
  • One of our questions is "Paleo or Ketone?". I *may* be wrong, but isn't "ketogenic diet" normally abbreviated to "keto"?
• EDIT: Actually, there's one more thing I stumbled across and forgot to write originally, although it's super minor anyway: special characters in the log don't get restored correctly if you save your game during an event and reload it. This can be seen in Elle's date after she's mentioned Françoise; it shows up as Fran?oise in the log if you save and re-load the game during the date. I'm guessing you're accidentally saving as ASCII instead of UTF-8, so this should be easy enough to fix.